Subaru Guaranteed Trade-in Program

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by trippinbillies40

Problem solved. Too many miles for how old the car is.

There is a mileage requirement? So the system is weighted to benefit the dealer but presented as if to be best for the costumer?

[Da Brz]

Originally Posted by trippinbillies40

Problem solved. Too many miles for how old the car is.

Their website still says this though:

"For vehicles exceeding the above maximum mileage limits and not disallowed by the Vehicle Exclusions or the Vehicle Condition Criteria outlined in the Program Guidelines, the GTP Value offered to the customer must be reduced by $0.20 for each mile over the maximum mileage allowance. This is the only allowed reduction of the GTP Value."

Come to about a $1,500 hit for me. But I still don't know what Subaru values my car at though.

[Da Brz]

Originally Posted by jasonojordan

$320 just for a oil change?!

I just called to ask since I've got my 30k mile service coming up.

$330 plus tax for an oil change, tire rotation and "brake fluid flush and top engine clean."

[trippinbillies40]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

There is a mileage requirement? So the system is weighted to benefit the dealer but presented as if to be best for the costumer?

Yes there is a mileage requirement, no it is not weighted to benefit the dealer. Just like leasing has mileage caps, the GTP program is a "bet" on the depreciated value of a car, and that is much much harder to be accurate on as mileage goes way up on younger cars, so Subaru caps mileage for GTP so they can accurately quote a trade in value that is good for both parties.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by trippinbillies40

Yes there is a mileage requirement, no it is not weighted to benefit the dealer. Just like leasing has mileage caps, the GTP program is a "bet" on the depreciated value of a car, and that is much much harder to be accurate on as mileage goes way up on younger cars, so Subaru caps mileage for GTP so they can accurately quote a trade in value that is good for both parties.

Perfect. Thanks.

[trippinbillies40]

Originally Posted by Da Brz

Their website still says this though:

"For vehicles exceeding the above maximum mileage limits and not disallowed by the Vehicle Exclusions or the Vehicle Condition Criteria outlined in the Program Guidelines, the GTP Value offered to the customer must be reduced by $0.20 for each mile over the maximum mileage allowance. This is the only allowed reduction of the GTP Value."

Come to about a $1,500 hit for me. But I still don't know what Subaru values my car at though.

Give your retailer a shout and they'll quote you.

[2013dgmbrzdood]

Well since my mileage had almost 30k more allowed I guess that means I get 30k x .20 added to my vehicle value.

I actually got really pist at subaru because in one month their trade-in value dropped by 4k. Total bs.

[trippinbillies40]

Originally Posted by 2013dgmbrzdood

Well since my mileage had almost 30k more allowed I guess that means I get 30k x .20 added to my vehicle value.

I actually got really pist at subaru because in one month their trade-in value dropped by 4k. Total bs.

Just out of curiosity, what does fair market price have to do with Subaru? If you want the most money for your car, sell privately. More work, but always your best option, especially if you think black book values are wrong.

[Da Brz]

Originally Posted by trippinbillies40

Just out of curiosity, what does fair market price have to do with Subaru? If you want the most money for your car, sell privately. More work, but always your best option, especially if you think black book values are wrong.

That's hard to do if you still owe money though.

[trippinbillies40]

Originally Posted by Da Brz

That's hard to do if you still owe money though.

Not necessarily true, but also, one can't hold a manufacturer responsible for quoting fair market value from black book.

[Capt Spaulding]

Originally Posted by Da Brz

I just called to ask since I've got my 30k mile service coming up.

$330 plus tax for an oil change, tire rotation and "brake fluid flush and top engine clean."

Let us know what a "top engine clean" is. I probably really need one of those whatever TF it is.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

Let us know what a "top engine clean" is. I probably really need one of those whatever TF it is.

LOL You made me look it up!
Sounds like they pour some shit in your gas or something. Even though the manual clearly says "don't pour shit or something in your gas".

"Using a top engine cleaner can help:
Reduce stalling, hesitation, and pinging.
Make your engine idle smoother.
Improve your exhaust emissions and gas mileage.
Clean carbon deposits from inside the engine (decarbonize).
Clean the intake valves and pistons.
Clean the throttle body (a little)."

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Da Brz

I just called to ask since I've got my 30k mile service coming up.

$330 plus tax for an oil change, tire rotation and "brake fluid flush and top engine clean."

They are ripping you off!

This is what the Subaru 30K service is supposed to include for around $300:

Major Subaru Recommended Service*

Perform at 30,000 Miles, 60,000 Miles, 90,000 Miles, etc

Replace engine oil, filter and drain plug washer
Inspect and adjust all drive belts to factory specifications
Inspect and ensure cooling fan is operating within factory specifications
Replace transmission fluid with Subaru High Performance Fluid
Check to ensure air conditioning and heating systems are operating within factory specifications
Rotate tires, inspect tread wear and check and adjust tire pressure as needed
Perform brake system inspection; pads and/or drums, lines, hoses and fluid
Inspect suspension system and steering components to ensure factory specifications
Service battery, clean terminals, install anti-corrosion pads and check battery condition
Inspect wiper blades and linkage operation
Lubricate all door, trunk and hood latches and hinges if needed
Inspect exhaust system and heat shields
Replace front and rear differential fluid
Inspect radiator and cooling system
Adjust emergency brake to within factory specifications if needed
Replace air filter element
Inspect steering operation, tie rod ends and steering rack guides per factory specifications
Inspect all engine and transmission mounts
Inspect and adjust all fluid levels as needed
Check all interior and exterior lighting operation
Replace brake fluid
Install premium fuel additive (dealer recommended)
Factory trained technician to conduct road test

[gravitylover]

That's not too terrible. Full fluid and filter changes all the way around and full visual inspection too. Sure you can do it in under 2 hours (3 including getting the parts and supplies) yourself if you have the knowledge, the place to do it and the tools but at $300 I'd question if it's worth it.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

They are ripping you off!

This is what the Subaru 30K service is supposed to include for around $300:

Major Subaru Recommended Service*

Perform at 30,000 Miles, 60,000 Miles, 90,000 Miles, etc

Replace engine oil, filter and drain plug washer
Inspect and adjust all drive belts to factory specifications
Inspect and ensure cooling fan is operating within factory specifications
Replace transmission fluid with Subaru High Performance Fluid
Check to ensure air conditioning and heating systems are operating within factory specifications
Rotate tires, inspect tread wear and check and adjust tire pressure as needed
Perform brake system inspection; pads and/or drums, lines, hoses and fluid
Inspect suspension system and steering components to ensure factory specifications
Service battery, clean terminals, install anti-corrosion pads and check battery condition
Inspect wiper blades and linkage operation
Lubricate all door, trunk and hood latches and hinges if needed
Inspect exhaust system and heat shields
Replace front and rear differential fluid
Inspect radiator and cooling system
Adjust emergency brake to within factory specifications if needed
Replace air filter element
Inspect steering operation, tie rod ends and steering rack guides per factory specifications
Inspect all engine and transmission mounts
Inspect and adjust all fluid levels as needed
Check all interior and exterior lighting operation
Replace brake fluid
Install premium fuel additive (dealer recommended)
Factory trained technician to conduct road test