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Old 04-30-2017, 03:38 AM   #29
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I would probably end up in a crash because I'd be too busy shifting back and forth constantly from following that eco shift indicator lol.

The only autos I've ever driven were family cars and yea I hated them. For the ones I drove, when it shifted was based on how much I was on the gas pedal. Putting my foot to the ground to try and switch lanes would make the car chug along for a second before dropping a gear and suddenly being in the upper RPMs. Same idea as manually dropping a gear for acceleration, except you didnt know exactly when that drop was going to happen.

Have fun with the paddles. The car will probably develop other issues in old age before the transmission dies from paddle usage.
The family sedan is what gives the AT a bad rep. The two fastest cars I ever owned (and I have had several fast cars) were autos. The vast majority of drivers do not care about sudden acceleration or launching and want smooth shifts and ease of driving. A shift kit and some performance tweaks could make an old school auto as good as or better than a mt equipped car of the same power. Mind you they sacrificed all the niceties that had been designed in order to get that speed. The fact that the paddle shift tech that eliminates most of the compromise required for an at to be attractive to the general public even exists should be embraced by the "enthusiasts" not shit on.
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The family sedan is what gives the AT a bad rep. The two fastest cars I ever owned (and I have had several fast cars) were autos. The vast majority of drivers do not care about sudden acceleration or launching and want smooth shifts and ease of driving. A shift kit and some performance tweaks could make an old school auto as good as or better than a mt equipped car of the same power. Mind you they sacrificed all the niceties that had been designed in order to get that speed. The fact that the paddle shift tech that eliminates most of the compromise required for an at to be attractive to the general public should be embraced by the "enthusiasts" not shit on.
This post in itself should be a sticky.

I can't tell you how many people and how frequently I argue about this with. The auto transmission in general is an amazing creation, and I drive a manual...

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This post in itself should be a sticky.

I can't tell you how many people and how frequently I argue about this with. The auto transmission in general is an amazing creation, and I drive a manual...

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I drive mt as well and about 98% of the cars I have owned have been but some of these new ats are truely a marvel of engineering.
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I think he just means his family assumes being able to select specific gears with an automatic means the car has a CVT. Probably because of the marketing hype around CVTs in the past, and paddle shifters were mentioned in those ads.

Basically vroom vroom commercials for fancy cars made some people equate paddle shifters with CVT.

Most people with automatics are just used to R, P, N, and D lol.
I understood that part of it. Most of the marketing I remember were all about it not having "shift shock" or gears. I was kind of suggesting, in my own way, for someone to educate themselves on what will likely be the most prevalent technology in a few years. Cvt does not equal paddle shifters. Thats all I was getting at.
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The family sedan is what gives the AT a bad rep. The two fastest cars I ever owned (and I have had several fast cars) were autos. The vast majority of drivers do not care about sudden acceleration or launching and want smooth shifts and ease of driving. A shift kit and some performance tweaks could make an old school auto as good as or better than a mt equipped car of the same power. Mind you they sacrificed all the niceties that had been designed in order to get that speed. The fact that the paddle shift tech that eliminates most of the compromise required for an at to be attractive to the general public even exists should be embraced by the "enthusiasts" not shit on.
Woops, I wasnt insulting autos overall if thats the impression you got. Just giving my thoughts on why the shift points might feel weird for him.
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I would probably end up in a crash because I'd be too busy shifting back and forth constantly from following that eco shift indicator lol.

The only autos I've ever driven were family cars and yea I hated them. For the ones I drove, when it shifted was based on how much I was on the gas pedal. Putting my foot to the ground to try and switch lanes would make the car chug along for a second before dropping a gear and suddenly being in the upper RPMs. Same idea as manually dropping a gear for acceleration, except you didnt know exactly when that drop was going to happen.

Have fun with the paddles. The car will probably develop other issues in old age before the transmission dies from paddle usage.
for sure, i was just so uneasy after using my paddles but now I'll use them My FRS has just below 40k on it, hoping it will make it to 120k at the least. It's being daily driven so i don't plan on doing anything too crazy to it
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Woops, I wasnt insulting autos overall if thats the impression you got. Just giving my thoughts on why the shift points might feel weird for him.
Nope I didn't think you were insulting anything. Was just an expansion of what you said.

Oh an for the record most family sedan ATs do suck balls for anybody that actually enjoys driving.
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I think I finally found a post on the entire internet that doesn't diss the AT on these cars! Hooray!
Also, didn't see it mentioned, but the AT also has the programmable shift light feature of the MT's.
I use my paddles daily when driving, and actually more frequently lately, with about a 2mpg drop in city driving. And thats with pretty hard driving most of the time.
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