New rims cut my 0-60 a lot more than expected

[Shinigami301]

Originally Posted by ktulu7

I've wondered why ALL the car plants seem to be in Ontario.

Because Canadian auto workers will work for half the wage... and then apologize for it.

...No, that's not it.

Because where else can Detroit executives enjoy Swiss Chalet, Tim Horton's and Poutaine, and then some Canadian Ballet after work?

...No, that's not it either.

The two week summers?

...nah.

It's the Molson Export! Must be the reason.

[ktulu7]

Originally Posted by Shinigami301

Because Canadian auto workers will work for half the wage... and then apologize for it.

...No, that's not it.

Because where else can Detroit executives enjoy Swiss Chalet, Tim Horton's and Poutaine, and then some Canadian Ballet after work?

...No, that's not it either.

The two week summers?

...nah.

It's the Molson Export! Must be the reason.

Maybe they just want to please Her Majesty. Oh, fun fact... My wife's cousin is a brewmaster for Molson in Vancouver.

To keep this semi-about-cars, how popular ARE the 86 twins in Canada, or at least Ontario? I know I've seen a TON of pickup trucks in Canada, and saw just lots of cheap and luxury sedans in Ottawa and Montreal.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Same reason why certain areas in the world specialize in producing one or two things in a concentrated area: because suppliers like to be closer to manufacturing plants (and vice versa).

Henry Ford started in Detroit and it sorta never changed much after that. Manufacturing moved to Canada because it was cheaper to make some things there.

Nowadays plants can be anywhere where there is access to reliable transportation, but companies like Toyota who still practice their "just in time" production philosophy will still be clustered next to virtually all their major suppliers.

Ye! Another reason why Detroit boomed so much was it's vicinity to navigable water. It took a shitload of coal to run a factory back then and it was more economical to receive it by ship instead of wagons/truck/train.

Originally Posted by mav1178

As long as Toyota gets their parts in a reliable/timely fashion, where their plant is doesn't really matter. It's all logistics planning to be honest.

Modern day manufacturing relies on good logistics more than location.

The most important thing people forget about modern day manufacturing is that where the products are to be sold usually play a much bigger role in where the manufacturing will be, rather than "it's cheaper to make it here than there"... this is to guard against fluctuations in exchange rate that can wipe out your profits in a week. Toyota Tundras are made in the USA mostly because it's primarily sold in the USA, so there's no point for it to be made in Canada or Japan or elsewhere.

Logistics are important yes but location does still play a huge role. Especially when fuel prices jump and shipping costs to start to rival manufacturing costs for some items.

Pretty much every vehicle made in Canada is sold primarily in the US. This is where the location comes into play though. Since the section of Canada that assembles (no body "makes" a vehicle anymore) is central and sticks way down past what people think of as the border it is relatively cheap to ship them anyplace in the US.

"Now Tcoat you just said that companies don't want to ship parts long ways so why is it OK for cars?" Well let me explain that...
So my company makes a rotor for A Gmordhrsler truck and it costs $9 to make. We can ship it to the plant in Illinois for about $1 a rotor. To ship it to a plant in Mexico costs about $5 a rotor. We need to ship 4 rotors per vehicle. That is a 30% increase in the cost of one component of one vehicle and the cost gets rolled up into that truck. We ship 4 million rotors a year from our plant! Now we take a fully assembled $25,000 car and it costs about $200 to $400 to ship pretty much anyplace in the USA. The shipping cost is also tacked onto the price of the car so it doesn't even chew up profit! Those parts are going to get made nearby but shipping the finished product is cheap.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ktulu7

Maybe they just want to please Her Majesty. Oh, fun fact... My wife's cousin is a brewmaster for Molson in Vancouver.

To keep this semi-about-cars, how popular ARE the 86 twins in Canada, or at least Ontario? I know I've seen a TON of pickup trucks in Canada, and saw just lots of cheap and luxury sedans in Ottawa and Montreal.

Per capita our mix of vehicles is really no different that any northern, central or midwestern State. We have 10% of the population the US does so have about 10% as many Twins driving around. There really is very little difference between the cars of the two countries other than we have les of everything. In fact you could probably drive out of Michigan and into Ontario and never even know the difference between the two other than the numbers on the speed limit signs.

Take a look:

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1294021

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Shinigami301

Because Canadian auto workers will work for half the wage... and then apologize for it.

Our average autoworker wage is $36 an hour (and they will not apologise for it). USA is $32


Because where else can Detroit executives enjoy Swiss Chalet, Tim Horton's and Poutaine, and then some Canadian Ballet after work?

UMMMM In Detroit? Have seen all those in Detroit


The two week summers?

They extended it? HOOOORAY!


It's the Molson Export! Must be the reason.
If they are coming here to drink that stuff we kick them out! Why do you think it is named "Export"?

LOL

[Shinigami301]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

LOL

LOL- I used to spend nearly summer weekend in Toronto competing in my sport back in the mid 80's through 1991.

Fond memories of friends there, including the most amazing machinist I have ever met who hailed from your home town.

[guybo]

The Looney is worth $0.74, that's a big reason. I wonder if there are more lax environmental laws too?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by guybo

The Looney is worth $0.74, that's a big reason. I wonder if there are more lax environmental laws too?

Environmental and health and safety laws are more stringent than most of the US.

The low dollar helps trade for us yes but we end up paying more for consumer goods. Besides it isn't always that low. It was above the US dollar for quite a while back a couple of years ago. All in all far to variable to be a firm attraction.

[nextcar]

I was going to forward this thread to "The Journal of Irreproducible Results " but now I am thinking "The Economist" might be more appropriate...

[Esseff]

Well, getting this thread back on topic...

OP, read this...
http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showth...-their-results

[Riftur]

Originally Posted by Braces

Haven't been visiting this site lately. But wow. Looks like a lot of pent up rage from all the responses. But ............

OP: you hit the jackpot on key seo words. Mentioning road racing light to light. Poor grammar. 0-60 times. LS engine swap or SC. Americans like light to light instead of handling cars. Etc. Etc.

I never said the bold statement. Though the truth is that american car manufacturers know that HP sells more than handling so you get a car with tons of HP that can barely turn (although this has changed since the recession). American cars are being made much better now. Any american gear head on here who says they do not enjoy the occasional red light to red light race is lying to themselves. That is how it all starts. Its the gate way race. lol

[Riftur]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Any thing you guys get we get. In fact many are made here and shipped there.

So your saying there is a lot of american muscle from the 60's and 70's in Canada? That would be one of the last places I would expect old cars to be. With the winters and all the salt i would think the steel bodied cars would just rust away very fast.

[Riftur]

Originally Posted by brandonblt2

The new camaro 1LE with a V6 is only 35k and will out handle the frs stock for stock.

If both cars were on the same tires would the camaro still win? I dont know anything about that version of the camaro so I am seriously asking.

[Riftur]

Originally Posted by bkharmony

What is a "youtube?"



The v6's what? Is the v6 a new rap band?

YouTubeV6's is the best band ever. They are a cross between rage against the machine and barry manilow. Best driving music ever.