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Keenercarguy · 03-21-2017, 01:23 PM

The fit was easy on the Gruppe-S, slid right on, bolted up, and was done. Overpipe too. I put a few dozen miles on it to heat cycle it and then retightended the header nuts before reattaching the under panels. You can run for a little while without a tune but you'll: get a CEL, then lose cruise control, won't run as well, won't see any real benefits. Also the collector and slip flanges on the Gruppe-S appear to be the only differences to the tomei: I compared mine with my friends and there isn't any *visible* difference at all, welds or anywhere else. (I also ceramic coated mine after that for added heatsoak prevention, and was still under his cost)

PLM isn't awful overall, but I've never seen their UEL option. Mostly they just copy other brands designs from what I understand. Link
At that price point you'd be better off with a version of the OFH or a Gruppe-S.

Teseo · 03-21-2017, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Keenercarguy

PLM isn't awful overall, but I've never seen their UEL option. Mostly they just copy other brands designs from what I understand. Link
At that price point you'd be better off with a version of the OFH or a Gruppe-S.

They did
http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/plm-...l#.WNFzknTD_qA

allowe · 03-21-2017, 03:11 PM

Anyone got a plm Uel on :p? Headers with flex joints seem sketchy

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-Willis-86touge · 03-22-2017, 11:24 AM

More info on the ofh3 thinking of buying the combo with tablet this weekend will it fit stock exhaust?

Teseo · 03-22-2017, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by -Willis-86touge

More info on the ofh3 thinking of buying the combo with tablet this weekend will it fit stock exhaust?

You mean the overpipe to frontpipe, yes

finch1750 · 03-22-2017, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Racers Line

Where could you have possibly read good reviews of the 1320 header? It is easily the biggest piece of garbage on the market for this car. I have removed multiple for customers that rubbed on the subframe, leaked from warped flanges, and fluttered from crap flex joints. Also, the o2 sensor spacer is a joke, and the 90 bend is required so the o2 sensor don't get eaten by the control arm.

OFH or Groupe S. Both will fit well, sound great, and make decent gains.

From all the for sale adds saying "Header was great, just going a different direction"

2017-BRZ · 03-23-2017, 11:21 PM

I'm waiting until the test results are in for the 2017 will be interesting to know if more gains achievable with uprated internals.

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Keenercarguy Mountain Runner Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited 6MT Location: Boone, NC and Charlotte area NC Posts: 714 Thanks: 489 Thanked 142 Times in 105 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s)	The fit was easy on the Gruppe-S, slid right on, bolted up, and was done. Overpipe too. I put a few dozen miles on it to heat cycle it and then retightended the header nuts before reattaching the under panels. You can run for a little while without a tune but you'll: get a CEL, then lose cruise control, won't run as well, won't see any real benefits. Also the collector and slip flanges on the Gruppe-S appear to be the only differences to the tomei: I compared mine with my friends and there isn't any visible difference at all, welds or anywhere else. (I also ceramic coated mine after that for added heatsoak prevention, and was still under his cost) PLM isn't awful overall, but I've never seen their UEL option. Mostly they just copy other brands designs from what I understand. Link At that price point you'd be better off with a version of the OFH or a Gruppe-S. __________________ 2013 BRZ 6MT Limited: "Quick as Hell, on a Budget" Build • Ceramic Coated Gruppe-S UEL/OP • Konig Hypergrams • RS4 200tw • Koni Yellows, Eibach Springs • Ferodo DS2500's

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