non-correctable front license plate - cop being @$$hole

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by FR-Sky

Like i said for many times, if law said $100 for everyone who got no front license plate,,i shut my mouth and pay that with pride. But this is not the case here.

Well, I have been using all state since I got my license 10 years ago. They have been taken good care of my family, (2 accidents). Mostly likely I wouldn't choose other insurance. Also, they offer good student discount, housing, and good driver discount, basically they drop my rate each year between $50-100. Currently, I am paying $1100/6months on two fully covered car, and one liability car. Less than 200/month for three car is not bad.

Damn. Thats is cheap haha.

Yeah, I don't even have Geico (had State Farm since I started driving). Just an example of places asking for 5 years back. I need to find someone that works at the DMV or in LEO to ask now cuz it has me curious. I have no points but multiple tickets many years ago so curious if that all shows up still

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by FR-Sky

I dont know about other insurance, I went to Allstate today, and she said insurance background check is Three Year.

Originally Posted by treminaor

I haven't put front plates on any of my cars in last 8 years and haven't ever received a warning or citation, even while being pulled over for other very serious speeding violations. Seems it's totally up to the discretion of the cop and how much they respect you and your car. I think your chances really depend on the areas you frequently commute/park and how bored their cops are.

However as everyone's already mentioned in here I'm knowingly ignoring the law and I have no right to be angry when a cop inevitably pulls me over for it and tells me to fix it - I'm prepared to do that once I'm forced to but for now I'm just enjoying the look of my car without it. BUT... I would expect the $25 fix-it ticket, not some $200+ bullshit violation - that's right up there with a low speeding ticket, red light or a lane violation.. what a joke.. all the intersection & toll cameras capture your face and rear plates so I've never seen the point of these.

I heard some story about how you can complain that you don't want to ruin your classic/exotic car with drill holes because it damages the value of the car, but that's probably just some bullshit. And of course there's mounts now to get around the drill holes but that doesn't change how much it ruins the lines of the car (or blocks the air intake depending on where you put the stupid thing).


Words to live by.

Wait, you are saying a ticket for running a red light is a joke? And what is an example of a low speeding ticket and a lane violation?

[FR-Sky]

Originally Posted by finch1750

Damn. Thats is cheap haha.

Yeah, I don't even have Geico (had State Farm since I started driving). Just an example of places asking for 5 years back. I need to find someone that works at the DMV or in LEO to ask now cuz it has me curious. I have no points but multiple tickets many years ago so curious if that all shows up still

You can always go to DMV or DMV online to get a your driving record, it shows everything. When I did it, it was $5 buck, I dont know how much is it now.

[treminaor]

Originally Posted by finch1750

Wait, you are saying a ticket for running a red light is a joke? And what is an example of a low speeding ticket and a lane violation?

No I'm saying that putting a missing front plate ticket in the same price bracket as those listed offenses is a joke. Missing a front plate isn't going to kill someone else on the road or put anyone in danger.

If you run a red light you deserve all that and more.

Lane violations are when you leave a turn-only lane to go straight on a green light because you're impatient or don't know where you're going. If a cop sees you do that then expect a ticket. Low speeding ticket is the lowest possible speeding violation, which I believe is 15mph or less over the posted limit (?), can't remember it's been a while. All I remember is the price bracket raises the faster you are going over the limit. If you're doing 90+ on a 65mph freeway you'll either get the most expensive ticket (~$500) or you'll just go to jail if the cop isn't happy with you.

[FR-Sky]

Originally Posted by treminaor

I haven't put front plates on any of my cars in last 8 years and haven't ever received a warning or citation, even while being pulled over for other very serious speeding violations. Seems it's totally up to the discretion of the cop and how much they respect you and your car. I think your chances really depend on the areas you frequently commute/park and how bored their cops are.

However as everyone's already mentioned in here I'm knowingly ignoring the law and I have no right to be angry when a cop inevitably pulls me over for it and tells me to fix it - I'm prepared to do that once I'm forced to but for now I'm just enjoying the look of my car without it. BUT... I would expect the $25 fix-it ticket, not some $200+ bullshit violation - that's right up there with a low speeding ticket, red light or a lane violation.. what a joke.. all the intersection & toll cameras capture your face and rear plates so I've never seen the point of these.

I heard some story about how you can complain that you don't want to ruin your classic/exotic car with drill holes because it damages the value of the car, but that's probably just some bullshit. And of course there's mounts now to get around the drill holes but that doesn't change how much it ruins the lines of the car (or blocks the air intake depending on where you put the stupid thing).


Words to live by.

"BUT... I would expect the $25 fix-it ticket, not some $200+ bullshit violation"

I am so glad, one more person understand my point....

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by treminaor

No I'm saying that putting a missing front plate ticket in the same price bracket as those listed offenses is a joke. Missing a front plate isn't going to kill someone else on the road or put anyone in danger.

If you run a red light you deserve all that and more.

Lane violations are when you leave a turn-only lane to go straight on a green light because you're impatient or don't know where you're going. If a cop sees you do that then expect a ticket. Low speeding ticket is the lowest possible speeding violation, which I believe is 15mph or less over the posted limit (?), can't remember it's been a while. All I remember is the price bracket raises the faster you are going over the limit. If you're doing 90+ on a 65mph freeway you'll either get the most expensive ticket (~$500) or you'll just go to jail if the cop isn't happy with you.

Ahhh, got you. I wasnt understanding as I read. Usually means its time for bed lol

Thanks for clarifying

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by FR-Sky

"BUT... I would expect the $25 fix-it ticket, not some $200+ bullshit violation"

I am so glad, one more person understand my point....

Again, this is not a "bullshit violation", its the law. The Officer didn't make it up on site, and you don't know what instructions the Officer had in regards to this, or what real leeway he had.

That said, I agree it sucks and I'd be pissed too, but I'd also understand it was my fault and not the Officer's. This one is so easy to avoid and so clear cut, its hardly worth the electrons we've wasted on it.

Also, like it or not, this happens all the time, it is officer discretion. The only other option would be to take all discretion away and have it a hard and fast enforcement. You just happen to have been on the "wrong" side of this one, but still, your fault, not the Officer's.

Speeding tickets are a good example. My very first speeding ticket (when I was 19) was for doing 68 in a 55 mile an hour zone. It should have been for doing 100 in a 55 but the officer cut me a break because I had a clean record, it was the middle of the night on I-95 in rural NC, and he and I were the only cars on the road for miles, and he didn't want to take me in for careless and reckless (I was going fast enough he would have had to book me)

10 years later I got a ticket for doing 36 in a 30MPH zone. I was doing 36 on my motorcycle. Officer did not discuss, and gave me no option to reduce.

In both cases, I thanked the Officer, paid the fine and moved on.

[kakacarrotcake]

Originally Posted by finch1750

Damn. Thats is cheap haha.

Yeah, I don't even have Geico (had State Farm since I started driving). Just an example of places asking for 5 years back. I need to find someone that works at the DMV or in LEO to ask now cuz it has me curious. I have no points but multiple tickets many years ago so curious if that all shows up still

I work for Progressive, industry standard is 59 months for At fault accidents, 35 months for tickets/violations. You can call and ask for your tickets and accidents to be removed after 35 months. At least with us. It can save you a bunch. Driving safe works too.

[Pwolf]

Originally Posted by FR-Sky

"BUT... I would expect the $25 fix-it ticket, not some $200+ bullshit violation"

I am so glad, one more person understand my point....

I understand your point but I think your attitude towards the officer is bullshit.

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by kakacarrotcake

I work for Progressive, industry standard is 59 months for At fault accidents, 35 months for tickets/violations. You can call and ask for your tickets and accidents to be removed after 35 months. At least with us. It can save you a bunch. Driving safe works too.

Only got one thing left on mine atm and it falls off in July anyway. Otherwise it was all from my teenage years being dumb. Thanks for the info though. Always good to know

[kakacarrotcake]

Originally Posted by finch1750

Only got one thing left on mine atm and it falls off in July anyway. Otherwise it was all from my teenage years being dumb. Thanks for the info though. Always good to know

I've been there, my insurance was ridiculous in my early 20's because of my teen driving years. lol.


I have Geico, they seem to be the best big name company for CA. I have one point for speeding right now, but they don't surcharge you or take away your good driver discount for 1 point. Definitely worth a look if you want to avoid paying a higher premium. Mine is <100/month.

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by kakacarrotcake

I've been there, my insurance was ridiculous in my early 20's because of my teen driving years. lol.


I have Geico, they seem to be the best big name company for CA. I have one point for speeding right now, but they don't surcharge you or take away your good driver discount for 1 point. Definitely worth a look if you want to avoid paying a higher premium. Mine is <100/month.

I have all my policies through State Farm and my family has had the same agent since the early 90s. They make it worth staying with them.

And I have never had any issue dealing with a claim which I cant say the same for my friends that have had Geico or went through insurance brokers. Ymmv

[Pwolf]

State Farm here as well. Same agent since God knows when.

[kakacarrotcake]

Originally Posted by finch1750

I have all my policies through State Farm and my family has had the same agent since the early 90s. They make it worth staying with them.

And I have never had any issue dealing with a claim which I cant say the same for my friends that have had Geico or went through insurance brokers. Ymmv

Yeah, it really just depends on your own experience. I prefer to do everything myself so I just go directly through the company. I've only had one claim with them in the 5 years I've had them and it was really painless. There's always someone who has a bad experience though.