SARD Surge Tank Kit w/ ITB from TAS 2017

[yo joshman]

hohooo this is interesting !

[GsxrMe]

Is the MAP installed underneath?

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by cyde01

so maybe it's for people who want to buy their own used AE111 TBs to use with the kit?

That was my though but then I realized you would need to cut them in half right? All 4 are together on a single flange

[Barefootdan]

Interesting! I'm looking forward to this

[AxisPower]

Originally Posted by finch1750

That was my though but then I realized you would need to cut them in half right? All 4 are together on a single flange

Each ae111 throttle body is its own individual unit, they're just held together with linkages which can be disassembled.

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by AxisPower

Each ae111 throttle body is its own individual unit, they're just held together with linkages which can be disassembled.

Ahhh. Didnt know that. Interesting

[Turdinator]

Originally Posted by GsxrMe

Is the MAP installed underneath?

There would be no point having a map sensor in the manifold as it would not see any vacuum.

[Evil Rocky]

I would like to know if able to get that thing here in the states

[cyde01]

more pics

http://www.automesseweb.jp/2017/01/15/16464

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Evil Rocky

I would like to know if able to get that thing here in the states

Getting it stateside is very easy.
Getting the most out of it depends entirely on user and understanding of tuning ITBs. I wouldn't slap this on a ECUTek car...

Originally Posted by cyde01

more pics

http://www.automesseweb.jp/2017/01/15/16464

For the lazy:

"86 / BRZ quadruple throttle kit" was developed as an item for the owner who wants to fully taste the goodness of NA (naturally aspirated) engine rather than power.
Third is a lineup of bolt on turbo kits (¥ 640,000), but the 4th series throttle kit is the first attempt. Although the product that was being exhibited was said to be a prototype stage, it is said that it is almost like a finished product such as completing a test by actual driving.

Feeling obtained in actual driving, "It does not go to the turbo kit with power, but it will greatly increase the response to elongation at high rpm and accelerator operation".
There is no doubt that the feeling unique to NA blowing up to the high revolution range will amplify.
The effect on feeling of pleasantness should be more than turboisation.

Although it is said that it can obtain sufficient effect even with the normal computer as it is, it is said that setting the computer makes it possible to draw out the goodness of the 4th series throttle kit more.
For example, he seems to be considering a set with a computer for owners who wish to further pursue driving performance with circuits and the like.

Formal release will be scheduled around the summer. By the way, because it assumes sales and installation at dealers etc, it can be said that quality and reliability are outstanding as well as performance.

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Getting it stateside is very easy.
Getting the most out of it depends entirely on user and understanding of tuning ITBs. I wouldn't slap this on a ECUTek car...

So a full stand alone would really be needed to tune for this appropriately? Or just need to run their tune on whatever software they use in the end?

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by finch1750

So a full stand alone would really be needed to tune for this appropriately? Or just need to run their tune on whatever software they use in the end?

Sorry, I should say "I wouldn't slap this on a remotely tuned ECUTek car..."

Many people like to throw out some base maps and have someone remotely tune it for them. My experience is that to maximize your investment, you'd want full stand alone.

Far too many people I know spend thousands of dollars on their engine, and go for the cheapest possible tune that works.. it was like this 20 years ago with 8-bit ECUs, it's like this today with whatever 16/32/64-bit ECU we have now...

-alex

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Sorry, I should say "I wouldn't slap this on a remotely tuned ECUTek car..."

Many people like to throw out some base maps and have someone remotely tune it for them. My experience is that to maximize your investment, you'd want full stand alone.

Far too many people I know spend thousands of dollars on their engine, and go for the cheapest possible tune that works.. it was like this 20 years ago with 8-bit ECUs, it's like this today with whatever 16/32/64-bit ECU we have now...

-alex

Yeah, I know what you mean. You would think paying a couple hundred bucks more for a dyno session after spending $3k on engine mods or FI would be a no brainer

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by finch1750

Yeah, I know what you mean. You would think paying a couple hundred bucks more for a dyno session after spending $3k on engine mods or FI would be a no brainer

"Hello?... I'm sorry, how much does a dyno session cost?"

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