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mav1178 01-23-2017 09:09 AM

SARD Surge Tank Kit w/ ITB from TAS 2017
 
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...be&oe=5AA36147
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...ab&oe=5AA4694E

Sard apparently is producing this intake surge tank kit. I can read 80% of the Japanese, but seems like it's using a kit from an AE111 Corolla for individual throttle body.

High response is the end goal with this kit. Obviously a tune is needed... expected to be available in March 2017.

-alex

Teseo 01-23-2017 09:11 AM

I bet will cost a fortune, would like to see a dyno chart thought

mav1178 01-23-2017 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2837243)
I bet will cost a fortune, would like to see a dyno chart thought

The first thing people ask for is a dyno.... I really don't think this kit's purpose is for a big crazy powerband.

Price is 320,000 yen for full kit and 240,000 for something else... not sure what the katakana reads.

Teseo 01-23-2017 09:30 AM

I mean dyno graph, i dont care top end

mav1178 01-23-2017 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2837248)
I mean dyno graph, i dont care top end

So how do you measure throttle response on a dyno?

I'm not sure a dyno will give you the answer you want, nor present the goal of this product accurately...

Teseo 01-23-2017 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2837250)
So how do you measure throttle response on a dyno?

I'm not sure a dyno will give you the answer you want, nor present the goal of this product accurately...

No throttle response, but how to compare the dyno on stock vs this modification. How its the line before redline, and see the bump in power if any on mid range.

mav1178 01-23-2017 09:58 AM

CAD drawing from SARD's Facebook page...

https://www.facebook.com/SARD.Custom...type=3&theater

cyde01 01-23-2017 05:02 PM

here's a full translation of the japanese text:

86/BRZ ITB kit
  • bolts on to the FA20 engine!
  • available in full kit with intake manifold, surge tank, and ITB or throttle(for AE111)-less kit (???)
  • higher torque on entire range than stock and achieves high (throttle)response typical of ITBs *requires engine ECU tuning
  • 86/BRZ ITB Full Kit expected msrp 320,000 yen
  • 86/BRZ ITB (throttle-less)Kit expected msrp 240,000 yen (???)
expected availability March

now i have no idea what a throttle-less ITB kit is so your guess is as good as mine. @ichitaka05?

ichitaka05 01-23-2017 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyde01 (Post 2837513)
now i have no idea what a throttle-less ITB kit is so your guess is as good as mine. @ichitaka05?

For ppl that want different TB. They can buy the kit without TB. Why ppl wanna do that? IDK

Well at least that's how I read it. I'll search it up lil bit more

cyde01 01-23-2017 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 2837560)
For ppl that want different TB. They can buy the kit without TB. Why ppl wanna do that? IDK

Well at least that's how I read it. I'll search it up lil bit more

so maybe it's for people who want to buy their own used AE111 TBs to use with the kit?

ichitaka05 01-23-2017 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyde01 (Post 2837567)
so maybe it's for people who want to buy their own used AE111 TBs to use with the kit?

Looking up, but nothing solid info can be found atm... sorry can't be much help.

cyde01 01-23-2017 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 2837572)
Looking up, but nothing solid info can be found atm... sorry can't be much help.

all good ich, it's pretty exciting that a kit is coming out soon! would love to see this on celek's build, but i think he's already pretty far along in making his own custom built itbs.

ichitaka05 01-23-2017 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyde01 (Post 2837580)
all good ich, it's pretty exciting that a kit is coming out soon! would love to see this on celek's build, but i think he's already pretty far along in making his own custom built itbs.

iirc Ken is testing out on US side.

Captain Snooze 01-24-2017 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2837245)
The first thing people ask for is a dyno....

Could someone get me a chocolate milkshake?
Could someone get me a dyno for this intake?


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