Catted UEL Header Suggestions?

[Carbinebbq]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Not going to comment on the risk only that a loud sporty car is a loud sporty car, you're doing something illegal, period.

Hope all goes well for you, I'm shopping for a header as well so I'll be taking a similar risk.

Yeah that is true. Making me have second thoughts about getting UEL lol.

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[calic]

Originally Posted by TofuJoe

To follow up: I have a JDL UEL with the thermal coating.
• Fit and finish are nice.
• $1000 with the coating and lifetime warranty. Tough to beat.
• With a Perrin 2.5" resonated catback and stock front pipe, the sound inside the car got a little bit less bassy. There's a little bit of rumble. The car doesn't seem louder on the inside. The sound is different, but mellower than I expected. Even at 75 mph on the freeway.
• My highly respected tuner seemed surprised that the catted UEL didn't flow more. I haven't been on the dyno, but this led me to believe the gains are quite a bit less than uncatted.
• If you're running an OFT, you're not taking full advantage of the catted header, because you still need to run a Stage 1 tune. The catted UEL doesn't flow well enough for Stage 2. I went with a custom ECUTek tune, and I feel a lot more confident having a tune that was done specifically for my car.

Why dont you change out your stock fp. Since your ultimately running two cats. Which might of caused the issue with OFT. I'm running the same setup sans the catted header and a straight invidia fp.

[Sypher]

Originally Posted by TofuJoe

To follow up: I have a JDL UEL with the thermal coating.
• Fit and finish are nice.
• $1000 with the coating and lifetime warranty. Tough to beat.
• With a Perrin 2.5" resonated catback and stock front pipe, the sound inside the car got a little bit less bassy. There's a little bit of rumble. The car doesn't seem louder on the inside. The sound is different, but mellower than I expected. Even at 75 mph on the freeway.
• My highly respected tuner seemed surprised that the catted UEL didn't flow more. I haven't been on the dyno, but this led me to believe the gains are quite a bit less than uncatted.
• If you're running an OFT, you're not taking full advantage of the catted header, because you still need to run a Stage 1 tune. The catted UEL doesn't flow well enough for Stage 2. I went with a custom ECUTek tune, and I feel a lot more confident having a tune that was done specifically for my car.

I have a custom OFT tune for my FT86SF catted header. works great and still cheaper/easier than ECUTek for an N/A car. the biggest difference over the stage 2 tune is that the custom tune has is more power up top. because of the header the stage 2 tune was running a little rich at the upper end of the RPMs.

[Carbinebbq]

Originally Posted by Sypher

I have a custom OFT tune for my FT86SF catted header. works great and still cheaper/easier than ECUTek for an N/A car. the biggest difference over the stage 2 tune is that the custom tune has is more power up top. because of the header the stage 2 tune was running a little rich at the upper end of the RPMs.

How much extra is the custom tune?

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[finch1750]

Originally Posted by Carbinebbq

How much extra is the custom tune?

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You have to talk to Shiv. It depends on set-up. @Sypher was helping out Shiv so it was free

[TofuJoe]

OFT - $500 (+ tax and shipping, if applicable) - or used for $400.
Custom OFT Tune - $245 (price listed on their website. Could take a few weeks per other forum members).
Total: $645-790

Delicious Flash and Go Tune with license - $600. Logs were typically examined same day or next day. They did 3 revisions until it was perfect. Neal at @TheRacersLine provided the dongle and cable, and did the logs.

Of course with the OFT you can resell and get $375 back from your investment. So the net is about $300 cheaper. For me, doing the street tune with Neal and Delicious was worth the extra money because it's totally dialed in for my car, was done in person, and I learned a lot during the experience.

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by TofuJoe

OFT - $500 (+ tax and shipping, if applicable) - or used for $400.
Custom OFT Tune - $245 (price listed on their website. Could take a few weeks per other forum members).
Total: $645-790

Delicious Flash and Go Tune with license - $600. Logs were typically examined same day or next day. They did 3 revisions until it was perfect. Neal at @TheRacersLine provided the dongle and cable, and did the logs.

Of course with the OFT you can resell and get $375 back from your investment. So the net is about $300 cheaper. For me, doing the street tune with Neal and Delicious was worth the extra money because it's totally dialed in for my car, was done in person, and I learned a lot during the experience.

Not having to buy a cord when shops have them is a huge savings. I like my OFT but at the same time know the tune isnt perfect (for my car at least). But I also like the data viewing feature with OFT so I can still stream music on my phone. I guess i could go back to burning CDs or a slim USB stick and run Torque app again.

[steve99]

If your in california i believe any change to exhaust emmiss il ns systems eg cats is illegal.

Another option if you have e85 stations near by is just retune for e85 fuel on a completly stock car.

You will get about 20 hp increase likly more than with catted header and petrol especially cali 91 and no physical mods required ie car llòoks stock

You could use oft and reflash or go ecutek with map switching tune

[Carbinebbq]

Originally Posted by steve99

If your in california i believe any change to exhaust emmiss il ns systems eg cats is illegal.

Another option if you have e85 stations near by is just retune for e85 fuel on a completly stock car.

You will get about 20 hp increase likly more than with catted header and petrol especially cali 91 and no physical mods required ie car llòoks stock

You could use oft and reflash or go ecutek with map switching tune

E85 is not available in my area as far as I know. I'd rather not depend on a type of fuel that isn't readily available in my area. And technically my q300 is already "illegal".

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[Lantana frs]

Shiv posted a video link for a catted uel and ots tune on another thread. Check it out

[Carbinebbq]

Originally Posted by Lantana frs

Shiv posted a video link for a catted uel and ots tune on another thread. Check it out

Can you link? Kinda vague saying "on another thread"

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[finch1750]

Originally Posted by Carbinebbq

Can you link? Kinda vague saying "on another thread"

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Its like 5 threads from the top

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114695

[Carbinebbq]

Originally Posted by finch1750

Its like 5 threads from the top

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114695

Thanks I appreciate that.

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[17brzNick]

Looking for some catted uel headers for my 2017 brz. Budget is around $800 and getting it tuned by an ecutek tuner. Reason for ecutek and not OFT is because i’m looking to go forced induction down the road. Also is getting a cat less header illegal in texas?