TEIN Control Master

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by chulooz

Tein sucks.... you need a contract to buy that set and they have the right to refuse sale. (oh wait, they dont even make them anymore) Thank you, please come again.

oh cool, zero information. tein rocks...they make the best suspension ever. did i do it right? im pretty sure that my statement has just as much validity as yours. tein makes plenty of decent products in their given price ranges. i dont know of too many more companies that do both the testing and production in house. not everybody is looking for 2800 coilovers

[Dimman]

They make a range of options. Just like car companies do. Pic the one in the role you want that fits your budget.

[chulooz]

Originally Posted by fatoni

oh cool, zero information. tein rocks...they make the best suspension ever. did i do it right? im pretty sure that my statement has just as much validity as yours. tein makes plenty of decent products in their given price ranges. i dont know of too many more companies that do both the testing and production in house. not everybody is looking for 2800 coilovers

And the products "Made in Taiwan"?

[denkigrve]

Originally Posted by chulooz

And the products "Made in Taiwan"?

Why is the car community so racist of the Chinese and Taiwanese? Do you use a computer or a smart phone? GUARANTEE you those are made in China.

Tein does everything in house, and then has some plants elsewhere that do assembly of parts for them. Welcome to 2012 and how big companies that operate on a global scale work?

They are not a chinese knock-off company. They simply are trying to keep up with demand.

[chulooz]

Originally Posted by denkigrve

Why is the car community so racist of the Chinese and Taiwanese? Do you use a computer or a smart phone? GUARANTEE you those are made in China.

Tein does everything in house, and then has some plants elsewhere that do assembly of parts for them. Welcome to 2012 and how big companies that operate on a global scale work?

They are not a chinese knock-off company. They simply are trying to keep up with demand.

No hate on Taiwan (hks, greddy, apexi) Just squashing myths.

[spiller]

Originally Posted by denkigrve

I was deciding between Mono-flexes and the RSR iSports. I went with the RSRs simply because I liked their spring rates better for daily driving. I'm looking into the mono-flexes in a few years though since they'll be able to provide me with the in-car control, high build quality, and great ride quality. Tein makes good products, they wouldn't be this big if they made junk.

Any idea of the difference in spring rates between Tein Flex and the RSRi sports? I think i read somewhere that tein flex comes with 7kg front and rear.

I am really looking for something that has independent spring rate preload and height (i.e. no helper springs) and wont shake my new car's interior to pieces. I am over super stiff coilovers for daily driving. Are the tein flex really that stiff?

[denkigrve]

Originally Posted by spiller

Any idea of the difference in spring rates between Tein Flex and the RSRi sports? I think i read somewhere that tein flex comes with 7kg front and rear.

I am really looking for something that has independent spring rate preload and height (i.e. no helper springs) and wont shake my new car's interior to pieces. I am over super stiff coilovers for daily driving. Are the tein flex really that stiff?

The RSR's are 6k/7k up to 8k/9k, you choose which rates you want when you order from RSR. That sold me on the coils. So far they don't seem that much stiffer than stock for daily driving. I'm currently set at like 6 for the dampening. I've only driven like 40 miles on them at this point. I wanted to stay closer to the stock setup which is setup stiffer in the rear than the front.

[spiller]

@denkigrve which rates did you select? 6k front 7k rear? Any idea what the stock spring rates are? Also do you know if your RSR coilovers are base height adjustable? Do the fronts have camber adjustable tops or just regular pillowball and how many steps do the damper adjusters have?

thanks!

cheers

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by chulooz

No hate on Taiwan (hks, greddy, apexi) Just squashing myths.

when i bought my flexes the box said made in japan. when i talk to dealers they say made in japan. when you go to the website it says made in house.

Originally Posted by denkigrve

The RSR's are 6k/7k up to 8k/9k, you choose which rates you want when you order from RSR. That sold me on the coils. So far they don't seem that much stiffer than stock for daily driving. I'm currently set at like 6 for the dampening. I've only driven like 40 miles on them at this point. I wanted to stay closer to the stock setup which is setup stiffer in the rear than the front.

what is thte stock spring rate? when you say 6 for damping do you mean the shock setting? because at first it seemed you were talking about spring rates.

[denkigrve]

Originally Posted by fatoni

when i bought my flexes the box said made in japan. when i talk to dealers they say made in japan. when you go to the website it says made in house.



what is thte stock spring rate? when you say 6 for damping do you mean the shock setting? because at first it seemed you were talking about spring rates.

Yeah 6 clicks into hard from soft on the shock setting.

Stock spring rates are:

FR-S:
3.0k/3.3k

BRZ:
3.3k/3.3k

[Tritty250]

Originally Posted by RallySport Direct

That is actually the Tein Flex coilover system.

Super popular do to the hight build quality, large number of adjustments, and ease of use. We have sold several sets already, and Ive had a chance to drive one of our customers BRZ with this system and simply could not believe how drastic the change was to the cars handling.

http://www.rallysportdirect.com/Tein...Flex-Coilovers


Here is a picture of the vehicle with them installed.


Kirill
RallySportDirect.com

can you tell me if thats dropped the full 55mm? or does it have room to go still? and its on 17"s correct?

[RallySport Direct]

Tein offers a very large span of products everything from springs, and the Street Basic( this is a model of coilover they offer) that is just a strut and spring all the way up to 17K GroupN suspension. Only reason I ever hear people complain about the systems is simply that they got the wrong model coilover for the application. Simply think of it as buying snow tires to run on the race track, or buying full slicks to drive in the rain. If you select the proper model of coilover from them for your need they work amazing. Having owned several sets, and driven all of the systems that they offer its a HUGE difference between the SuperStreet coilover to the SuperRacing. If you go out to a time attack event and have SuperStreets then you brought a knife to a gun fight, or if you get the SuperRacings and drive your car on the street of course your ride is going to be in pain as you have competition coilovers on a street car.

Once coilover cant do it all, no matter the manufacture and what we see by far the most of a problem is people want a soft ride for daily driving, but also have the same coilover be as good as 10K+ race coilovers, and also be 100% maintenance free and use them for 3-4years with out ever considering even washing them off.

If you guys have any question about TEIN's product line, please dont hesitate to contact us directly as we would gladly help out with selecting the proper system for your application.

Originally Posted by Tritty250

can you tell me if thats dropped the full 55mm? or does it have room to go still? and its on 17"s correct?

The drop in this image is 1.5" or 38mm roughly lower then stock.




In house engineered, tested, manufactured, and track proven. These guys build some of the best coilovers on the market!

Who Runs TEIN?
Well just a couple of these "little" guys who respectively may or may not have won one or more championships, events, or set a few records using OFF THE SHELF TEIN products. The spring rats might be changed, along with valving to cope with the spring rate change(this is part of set up), however overall they are using off the shelf components that are available to every day people.







Kirill
RallySportDirect.com

[spiller]

@RallySport Direct you mentioned you drove the customer's car with the Tein Flex fitted? What was the ride like? I am after something with separate spring rate and height adjustment but do not want a harsh ride (not too much harsher than factory which is quite firm) as I dont want to shake my new car to pieces. Any insights?

[RallySport Direct]

Originally Posted by spiller

@RallySport Direct you mentioned you drove the customer's car with the Tein Flex fitted? What was the ride like? I am after something with separate spring rate and height adjustment but do not want a harsh ride (not too much harsher than factory which is quite firm) as I dont want to shake my new car to pieces. Any insights?

I didnt get a chance to mess with the settings as I only drove the car for about 10min, so my insight is only on that setting. Out of 16 adjustments, the suspension was set on 12 from, so about 3/4 to full stiff.
The ride was firm, but not what I would say harsh or overly stiff. As it is a twin tube shock they have a tendency to be a bit more compliant on the road and would handle high speed bumps quite well with out making me just all over the seat.
Handling was drastically increased, the turn in was simply unbelievable. This would of course have to do with the fact that the wheels and tires where also upgraded to something a bit more sporty. The car was a bit more eager to be controlled by throttle input and it was much easier to rotate the car with the right foot. Pitch and dive where also reduced quite a bit, making the car much more planted and driving feedback was also improved allot giving more confidence in pushing the car hard.

I had a chance to talk to the customer quite a bit, and he said that on full stiff they where a bit more then what you would want to drive with on the street. Meaning that these would work great for someone who planned on doing several track days a year running a S compound tire with 100-140 tread wear.
On full soft he stated that it was able to be about as soft as stock, which was driving him nuts as the car started exhibiting body roll like the stock car. This lets me know that the range of adjustment is actually quite large on the shocks.

Next time I get a chance to drive this car, Ill see if he will let me mess with the adjustments a bit so I can check out the full range of the shock for myself and will post up reviews at that point.

Kirill
RallySportDirect.com