BRZ Inventory

[lowlevel]

Originally Posted by wbradley

Toyota sells more because they have 10x the distribution network.

I'd like to see what Toyota or Subaru could offer for say $35K-40K CDN

That's the current price range... mine was $35k-ish anyway...

[wbradley]

Originally Posted by lowlevel

That's the current price range... mine was $35k-ish anyway...

Mine was $26k + tx, frt

[BRZ086]

In South Africa you need to order the BRZ from Suburu SA via Subaru Japan and wait 3months for delivery even though there are many Suburu dealership . Sales guy says its an agreement they have with Toyota,hence no floor stock. Toyota 86's can be bought of the floor. Brz comes standard with 5 year 105km maintenance plan and BRZ spoiler and performance Exhaust and 86 comes with 3 year 75km maintenance plans. Maybe thats why the BRZ costs $9K more than 86.

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[Da Brz]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

That is about right. Toyota has a much greater production number of these worldwide. It has never been 50/50. There could be 100 reasons why but unless somebody has top level info any guesses are just guesses.
My personal speculation is it was Subaru's choice to stay lower since they don't want to cannibalize their WRX and STI sales too much.

Take a look here:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...=10766&page=53

Someone else may have already mentioned it, but I'd say it's because the common Toyota dealership is about four times the size of your common Subaru dealership.


Wouldn't make sense to have 20% of your lot made up of BRZs, lol.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by lowlevel

That's the current price range... mine was $35k-ish anyway...

$35K ish with all taxes and fees. The taxes and fees are not the price of the car that people talk about here unless they say "out the door". You can not compare price with takes in since everybody is different. If you paid more than $30K for the car you got robbed.

[lowlevel]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

$35K ish with all taxes and fees. The taxes and fees are not the price of the car that people talk about here unless they say "out the door". You can not compare price with takes in since everybody is different. If you paid more than $30K for the car you got robbed.

Robbed!? Well, yeah probably... I didn't include taxes or fees... but yes there are overpriced dealer installed options, paint and fabric protection and tints rolled in... You can easily hit $40k with the current available options and typical last minute add-ons... thats all I was saying.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by lowlevel

Robbed!? Well, yeah probably... I didn't include taxes or fees... but yes there are overpriced dealer installed options, paint and fabric protection and tints rolled in... You can easily hit $40k with the current available options and typical last minute add-ons... thats all I was saying.

Ahhh the dealer options thing. That would do it. I meant robbed if you paid that for just the car. Didn't think of the extras.

[Mim]

In AU the 86 comes in two trim levels of GT base and GTS being the higher. BRZ's come in a mono spec, but pretty loaded. All have an options list longer than my arm.

[softgrip]

Originally Posted by Mim

In AU the 86 comes in two trim levels of GT base and GTS being the higher. BRZ's come in a mono spec, but pretty loaded. All have an options list longer than my arm.

Oh man, I looked at a basic GTS online today and onroad it came to like $43k AUD.

Got my BRZ for $45k with a full body kit, window tints, all the sports packages etc and paint protection.

Crazy price difference!

[Mim]

Originally Posted by softgrip

Oh man, I looked at a basic GTS online today and onroad it came to like $43k AUD.

Got my BRZ for $45k with a full body kit, window tints, all the sports packages etc and paint protection.

Crazy price difference!

BRZ is better value. If you really get down to the details. Subaru does not charge for metallic paint, which is a $600 odd option for Toyota's. BRZ gets a full size matching alloy and tire spare worth about $500, Toyota give you a can of goop.

Then there's the sat nav, which is optional on the BRZ and not on the GTS. My aftermarket sat nav blows the factory one onto the weeds. BRZ gets the frameless mirror and we also get the boot door liner / trim so there's another $700 odd right there. I'm sure there's more.

Then there's servicing with Subaru doing 9month intervals vs 6month with Toyota, which even if capped at $209 a service, will cost more in the long run.

With some arm twisting I got mine in CWP, A/T and heated leather seats for 40k. When you factor in the BRZ is rarer and has better resale it really is a no brainer.

[softgrip]

Originally Posted by Mim

Then there's the sat nav, which is optional on the BRZ and not on the GTS. My aftermarket sat nav blows the factory one onto the weeds.

Heh... did you fix the unit not turning on for a minute or more when you start the car?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Mim

In AU the 86 comes in two trim levels of GT base and GTS being the higher. BRZ's come in a mono spec, but pretty loaded. All have an options list longer than my arm.

Originally Posted by Mim

BRZ is better value. If you really get down to the details. Subaru does not charge for metallic paint, which is a $600 odd option for Toyota's. BRZ gets a full size matching alloy and tire spare worth about $500, Toyota give you a can of goop.

Then there's the sat nav, which is optional on the BRZ and not on the GTS. My aftermarket sat nav blows the factory one onto the weeds. BRZ gets the frameless mirror and we also get the boot door liner / trim so there's another $700 odd right there. I'm sure there's more.

Then there's servicing with Subaru doing 9month intervals vs 6month with Toyota, which even if capped at $209 a service, will cost more in the long run.

With some arm twisting I got mine in CWP, A/T and heated leather seats for 40k. When you factor in the BRZ is rarer and has better resale it really is a no brainer.

Thank you! I think a lot of the US guys here do not realize the radical difference in what the rest of the world gets for their money (or just how much money those differences cost). There are a pile of people that are going to expect us to get a GTS trim level at a Scion FRS price and they are truly going to be disappointed. I can't wait to see the screaming as the price shots up here.

[why?]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Thank you! I think a lot of the US guys here do not realize the radical difference in what the rest of the world gets for their money (or just how much money those differences cost). There are a pile of people that are going to expect us to get a GTS trim level at a Scion FRS price and they are truly going to be disappointed. I can't wait to see the screaming as the price shots up here.

Except $40,000 Australian dollars is $29576 and change. Not that much more than the Scion.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by why?

Except $40,000 Australian dollars is $29576 and change. Not that much more than the Scion.

No No, No, No No No, No
For the hundredth time you can not apply the current exchange rate to another county's price and say "but that is only $XXX" In Australia it is $40K they do not pay in US dollars. What happens when the US dollar drops and the Aus one goes up? Does their car get cheaper? Do Americans really think that other countries raise and lower their prices for things when the exchange rate changes? No it stays the same. Exchange rate does not reflect the value of a purchase in another country it is just what you would pay if using US dollars to pay for it there. The car that is $40K there could still be $40K here since the price is set for our economy not the exchange rate between the US and Aus dollar.