Two schools of thoughts Miata and 86

[darthpnoy1984]

Originally Posted by jsimon7777

Nobody has every thought that before. Nobody ever.

Because everyone is so caught up in asking to turbo this car which I really feel it doesn't need it, I'd rather it stay true to what the AE86 was all about.

[EAGLE5]

Originally Posted by darthpnoy1984

Because everyone is so caught up in asking to turbo this car which I really feel it doesn't need it, I'd rather it stay true to what the AE86 was all about.

OK. While you're at it, complain about the "Prius tires" not being sticky enough.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by jsimon7777

OK. While you're at it, complain about the "Prius tires" not being sticky enough.

FR-S oversteer, BRZ understeers, magazines said so, I'm buying an FR-S because I like drifting better than fail-wheel-drive understeer.

[FX86]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

FR-S oversteer, BRZ understeers, magazines said so, I'm buying an FR-S because I like drifting better than fail-wheel-drive understeer.

2013/14 models though, right? 2015/16 had it's suspension revised and doesn't seem to be as tail happy as before.

[EAGLE5]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

FR-S oversteer, BRZ understeers, magazines said so, I'm buying an FR-S because I like drifting better than fail-wheel-drive understeer.

I have never driven a BRZ in anger, so I wouldn't know, but on the track, with how I drive, the FR-S power oversteers a lot more than it ploughs into corners. If I'm going too fast and just turn the wheel, it will understeer. If I go in slow and then try to power through, I oversteer. Removing junk from the trunk makes it worse.

[Adam_L]

Originally Posted by finch1750

It is very different. I have an MR2 Spyder and have driven Miatas. They feel faster then they are imo. I can take most roads/turns at higher speeds in the FRS even thoigh it feels slower.

There is no way to duplicate lightness. Simple as that. It's what leaves me torn about keeping or selling the spyder

MR-2/spyder, S2k , NSX, Miata MX-5 : these can all be fun sports cars to drive (fun in similar or different ways) , however they are all strickly 2-seaters and have very low versatility.

Maybe one of the reasons on the Miata clatter , is due to how light weight the car is (not sure the actual weight between generations of Miata) , but pretty sure it is less weight then the BRZ/FR-s 2700 lbs.

[shellslinger]

Originally Posted by darthpnoy1984

The Twins really need a hot version of the car at 2.5L, update the 6 speed AT to 8 speed from the RC-F coupe or RC200T is all that it frankly needs.

Not sure about that. What it really needs is a 20B-REW paired up to a 9 speed DCT and all wheel drive. Maybe some speed holes in the front hood too.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by shellslinger

Not sure about that. What it really needs is a 20B-REW paired up to a 9 speed DCT and all wheel drive. Maybe some speed holes in the front hood too.

I'd buy one 6th hand and do a T56 RWD conversion for $10k.

[darthpnoy1984]

Originally Posted by shellslinger

Not sure about that. What it really needs is a 20B-REW paired up to a 9 speed DCT and all wheel drive. Maybe some speed holes in the front hood too.

A rotary would throw way the reliability of the car. 230 to 250 n/a would be more than enough for this car.


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[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by darthpnoy1984

A rotary would throw way the reliability of the car. 230 to 250 n/a would be more than enough for this car.


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People say the same thing about putting a Subaru boxer engine in it.

[GraphiteZ]

Originally Posted by darthpnoy1984

The Twins really need a hot version of the car at 2.5L, update the 6 speed AT to 8 speed from the RC-F coupe or RC200T is all that it frankly needs.

Completely agree. Honda increased the displacement to 2.2L to improve torque delivery for the S2000 in mid-cycle update 12 years ago. I am disappointed that Toyota/Subaru didn't learn from it.