Another p0018 thread, Scion TSB? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

etc · 08-27-2016, 03:27 PM

Hey guys, I know there are a bunch of p0018 threads and I feel like I have read them all now (probably missed some though, mostly related to it's siblings the p0016,p0017... ).

My question is pretty specific. It is mentioned a lot that there is a TSB for it (at least for early 2013's). I see the subaru TSB "02-132-12" is there a scion equivalent?

I am taking my car in for service for this and would really like to be able to point them to a TSB. It seems many of these services end up being a lot of experimenting until eventually they replace the timing sprocket and ecu. If there is any scion internal documentation that will help them learn from other's that would be good to reference.

Thanks

humfrz · 08-28-2016, 12:16 AM

I'd suggest you just take in a copy of the BRZ TSB ...... they ought to know it's the same engine....

humfrz

Ultramaroon · 08-28-2016, 12:29 AM

Unfortunately, since there's no way to directly diagnose the valve failure without disassembling the engine, I think they've decided the cheaper path is to get there by ruling out everything else.

etc · 08-29-2016, 05:24 PM

Thanks guys, so much for my hopes of short-circuiting the process

I will print the subaru TSB and bring it in, good suggestion. I guess ultimately I was hoping if I could point them at the scion TSB there may be more information in their system around it and it would be easier for them to get approval for the repairs. Not really sure how a service department works though so maybe a naive thought.

I have < 500 miles left of warranty so as long as I get it completely wrapped up in that time I am good

Ultramaroon · 08-29-2016, 07:55 PM

Good luck. Keep us posted.

etc · 09-01-2016, 02:51 PM

So at first everything went well. Dropped it off they called back said they called toyota and were going to replace the cam gear and ecu.

Called back today though and said they wouldn't cover it because of my oil cooler. They mentioned my intercooler as well that I left on from my supercharger I asked what that had to do with cam gears and they backed down on that one and just said that the cam gear problem could be caused by oil flow issues so the oil cooler could be at fault and they wouldn't cover it, $3,033 if I wanted them to do it anyway. So much for the dealer, now on to independent shops.

Ultramaroon · 09-01-2016, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by etc

So at first everything went well. Dropped it off they called back said they called toyota and were going to replace the cam gear and ecu.

Called back today though and said they wouldn't cover it because of my oil cooler. They mentioned my intercooler as well that I left on from my supercharger I asked what that had to do with cam gears and they backed down on that one and just said that the cam gear problem could be caused by oil flow issues so the oil cooler could be at fault and they wouldn't cover it, $3,033 if I wanted them to do it anyway. So much for the dealer, now on to independent shops.

They would have to prove it was caused by an oil cooler. They won't because it's bullshit.

etc · 09-29-2016, 02:32 PM

So it appears I am out the other side, CEL has been off for a couple days now.

Had a cam gear replaced by a local subaru engine builder (outfront motorsports) which was about $800 and replaced the ecu ($80 from ebay, followed instructions here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102810). So not too bad price wise and just in time for a track day tomorrow

08-27-2016, 03:27 PM	#1
etc Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: '13 FRS Location: San Bruno Posts: 63 Thanks: 16 Thanked 64 Times in 26 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Another p0018 thread, Scion TSB? Hey guys, I know there are a bunch of p0018 threads and I feel like I have read them all now (probably missed some though, mostly related to it's siblings the p0016,p0017... ). My question is pretty specific. It is mentioned a lot that there is a TSB for it (at least for early 2013's). I see the subaru TSB "02-132-12" is there a scion equivalent? I am taking my car in for service for this and would really like to be able to point them to a TSB. It seems many of these services end up being a lot of experimenting until eventually they replace the timing sprocket and ecu. If there is any scion internal documentation that will help them learn from other's that would be good to reference. Thanks

08-28-2016, 12:29 AM	#3
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etc Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: '13 FRS Location: San Bruno Posts: 63 Thanks: 16 Thanked 64 Times in 26 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks guys, so much for my hopes of short-circuiting the process I will print the subaru TSB and bring it in, good suggestion. I guess ultimately I was hoping if I could point them at the scion TSB there may be more information in their system around it and it would be easier for them to get approval for the repairs. Not really sure how a service department works though so maybe a naive thought. I have < 500 miles left of warranty so as long as I get it completely wrapped up in that time I am good

09-01-2016, 02:51 PM	#6
etc Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: '13 FRS Location: San Bruno Posts: 63 Thanks: 16 Thanked 64 Times in 26 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So at first everything went well. Dropped it off they called back said they called toyota and were going to replace the cam gear and ecu. Called back today though and said they wouldn't cover it because of my oil cooler. They mentioned my intercooler as well that I left on from my supercharger I asked what that had to do with cam gears and they backed down on that one and just said that the cam gear problem could be caused by oil flow issues so the oil cooler could be at fault and they wouldn't cover it, $3,033 if I wanted them to do it anyway. So much for the dealer, now on to independent shops.

09-29-2016, 02:32 PM	#8
etc Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: '13 FRS Location: San Bruno Posts: 63 Thanks: 16 Thanked 64 Times in 26 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So it appears I am out the other side, CEL has been off for a couple days now. Had a cam gear replaced by a local subaru engine builder (outfront motorsports) which was about $800 and replaced the ecu ($80 from ebay, followed instructions here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102810). So not too bad price wise and just in time for a track day tomorrow

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