Clutch problems please help

[MelvinKennyG]

I just installed a new clutch and flywheel in my frs but I've had several problems first of all the car won't start and my clutch pedal feels loose when before it felt stiffer. I don't know what to do please help

[Ultramaroon]

Did you mess with the crankshaft position rotor? If it's installed backward, the engine won't start.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by MelvinKennyG

I just installed a new clutch and flywheel in my frs but I've had several problems first of all the car won't start and my clutch pedal feels loose when before it felt stiffer. I don't know what to do please help

Well, HELLO MelvinKennyG and welcome to our forum......

WOW - big project, good for you taking it on ......

If you haven't already done so, you might review this DIY to see if you can glean any hint as to what is wrong.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ghlight=clutch

I see one of our best mechanical guys is on the case ....

@Ultramaroon ...... what on earth is a crankshaft position rotor, what does it do and where is it ...... ?? .....


humfrz

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by humfrz

@Ultramaroon ...... what on earth is a crankshaft position rotor, what does it do and where is it ...... ?? .....


humfrz

It's a disc that fits between the engine and the flywheel. It has tabs cut into it that can be seen by a proximity sensor. It works exactly the same way that the wheel speed and camshaft position sensors work.

[humfrz]

@MelvinKennyG .... when you say the engine won't start, do you mean it won't turn over or it won't fire .... ??


humfrz

[MelvinKennyG]

Originally Posted by humfrz

@MelvinKennyG .... when you say the engine won't start, do you mean it won't turn over or it won't fire .... ??


humfrz

What I mean is that when I press the clutch in and turn the key the end r won't fire up it'll try to but it just won't crank

[MelvinKennyG]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Did you mess with the crankshaft position rotor? If it's installed backward, the engine won't start.

I didn't mess with the crankshaft position rotor at all

[humfrz]

@MelvinKennyG in that DIY you may wish to pay particular attention to:

- On the top of the transmission you're gonna see a tangle mess of wires and hoses but we really only need to worry about a few of them. There are 2 connectors (one red and one gray) that need to be disconnected. There's also a ground wire that need to be unbolted from the top of the tranny. You can also see the clutch actuator, its held on with two 14mm bolts. DO NOT REMOVE THE BOLT TO THE CLUTCH LINE UNLESS YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH BLEEDING IT LATER!

- One thing I forgot to take a picture of is the wiring that needs to be removed from the starter. On the back of the starter you will see a small connector that needs to be removed. Also there is a rubber boot covering a 12mm nut on a wire terminal, remove this and move the wires out of the way."


Now, tell me that you DID hook the starter back up ......


humfrz

[MelvinKennyG]

I believe I did connect the starter correctly

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by MelvinKennyG

What I mean is that when I press the clutch in and turn the key the end r won't fire up it'll try to but it just won't crank

I'm sorry, I have to ask ....... you did hook the battery back up ..... ??

When you hit the key (start switch) does it go "click-click-click" .. ??

Have you checked the voltage on the battery ...... maybe it died during the operation ....


humfrz

[Ultramaroon]

I think there's some confusion over terminology. OP,

Crank = turn over = starter motor actually rotates the engine.

Fire = anything more than that. Could be a single pop, a sputter, or actually runs on its own for a few seconds.

[MelvinKennyG]

Yea I hooked it up correctly at first I thought my battery had died but after doing a battery test it showed it was fine. Like I said before what i find weird is that my clutch feels a lot softer than before maybe it's not making good contact. My car will not turn on at all it'll seem like it's about to start but then just doesn't

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by MelvinKennyG

Yea I hooked it up correctly at first I thought my battery had died but after doing a battery test it showed it was fine. Like I said before what i find weird is that my clutch feels a lot softer than before maybe it's not making good contact. My car will not turn on at all it'll seem like it's about to start but then just doesn't

Does the starter rotate the engine? Does it rotate the engine with the same vigor as it did when it was working properly or, if it rotates, does it labor?

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by MelvinKennyG

Yea I hooked it up correctly at first I thought my battery had died but after doing a battery test it showed it was fine. Like I said before what i find weird is that my clutch feels a lot softer than before maybe it's not making good contact. My car will not turn on at all it'll seem like it's about to start but then just doesn't

As far as the soft clutch ...... be aware of this part of the DIY.

"You can also see the clutch actuator, its held on with two 14mm bolts. DO NOT REMOVE THE BOLT TO THE CLUTCH LINE UNLESS YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH BLEEDING IT LATER!"

So, does your clutch system need bleeding .. ??

How about the clutch return spring ..... is it still in place .. ??


humfrz