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To get the Performance Package or Not? Thread
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So I've been noticing we've been going back and forth on this subject across four threads and I wanted to just to make one thread for this so that we can help inform new buyers. OR chatter among ourselves, it's getting tedious to go back and fourth between 4 threads on the same topic. First of IT'S NOT AVAILABLE TILL WINTER 2017! I posted this in another thread but here is my research into the subject matter. Quote:
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Hmm.. i get the feeling this will be a popular thread over the next 3-4 months.
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[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRFHJhr-zOM"]SUBARU BRZ GTプãƒ*トタイプã«ãƒ‰ãƒªã‚*ン土屋åœ* 市ãŒå…¨é–‹è©¦ä¹—ï¼ - YouTube[/ame] He said that GT grade (US would be PP) is totally different than R & S (in US would be Premium & Limited). Even '17 R/S model, it's way better. He really enjoyed how they setup the suspension. Specially around the gap, he can go through the gap without worrying about flying everywhere. Instead damper quickly respond and keep the car stable and turn in is very quick as well. From street to track, you can have fun with this setup. Translations from Ichitaka05
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I think it's worth noting too that most high quality aftermarket BBKs are going to be notably lighter compared to the OEM Brembos.
If you plan on keeping your car mostly stock for years and years, I could see the appeal of the PP. Like everyone is saying, it really depends on what you want out of your car. |
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I thought my stock 13 BRZ was almost a perfect street setup when I had it.. to hear that there is new bracing, a larger rear sway on all models, and a retuning of the suspension setup I think the standard model is the upgrade I wanted.. not necessarily the PP which is geared towards track times. |
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For the price it seems like a no-brainer. That said, if you plan on modifying your car in such a way that's going to remove the PP goodies (ie - aftermarket BBK, coils, wheels, etc), then it's money wasted.
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The PP is almost 35k OTD. A legitimate STi would have to be close to 40k OTD, even without any kind of dealer markup. |
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I will add some discussion points:
Many will pay the extra even though they will never, ever, need the bigger brakes. They will do it for bragging rights, the cosmetics it provides or the mistaken belief it will help them stop better. Although bragging rights and cosmetics are both perfectly reasonable reasons the whole stopping thing needs to be clarified. Bigger brakes do not make you stop faster or better. This has been heavily debated before and some wonky physics thrown around as "proof" that they do but it is just not fact. Your tires will brake loose before your normal brakes ever give up when street driving. Bigger brakes do help with heat dissipation and preventing fade. On the track these are very critical factors but if you are driving on the street in such a manner that heat is an issue then you are doing something wrong. There are many aftermarket solutions that can cost you way less than the package. I bet there are a couple of thousand posts on here from experienced track guys that state very clearly that for the casual track day all you really need are good pads and fluid. This package may be gross overkill for the casual track guy and is totally not required for street use. As mentioned anybody that buys the package needs to think through what their future mod plans are. If wheel or suspension changes are going to be done then it is not a great package to get just for the brakes. You could of course sell the parts but you are still going to take a hit. It remains to be seen how well these cars are going to sell but if the dealers bring them in with the package already in place it could be a great bargaining tool when negotiating price. "Well Salesman Joe, I really have not decided on this or the new 86 but if you were to throw in a PP..."
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everyone knows you don't need brakes to go fast therefore this performance package is a waste of money
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In SC our tax is capped at $300. PP for my son & me.
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I've not kept up with the differences because I'm not in the market for a new car right now, but is there more than just the suspension and brakes between the limited and performance package? Something not easily replaceable, I mean? Brakes and suspension are common, easy, and relatively low cost upgrades; something like traction control or a gearing change is not.
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