Anyone know why the 86 is lighter than the brz? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Tjs Blunts and Coffee · 09-08-2016, 12:15 AM

According to the Toyota website: http://www.toyota.com/86/2017/featur...ties/6253/6252

and according to the Subaru website:
http://www.subaru.com/vehicles/brz/index.html

So the 86 version is 2,774 lb's whereas the brz (premium) is 2,785. A whole 11 pounds lighter. What is that?

Mr.ac · 09-08-2016, 12:42 AM

Heavy BRZ badges, more air in the tires, some one took a shit before the weigh ins, some put their burrito in the BRZ, the BRZ was in the middle of the circle jerk, the 86 is bulimic.
Some one had a full tank of gas, some one took a shit in the BRZ. Take your pick. Or make up one.

For real? Dude, really?

nico_rsx · 09-08-2016, 01:04 AM

At least one other person (that would be me) is interested to know.
Since I do a lot of AutoX, 10-20lbs is a lot. I'm still more interested in the BRZ right now.
Also if you search in google "toyota 86 weight", you can see 2760lbs for the base 86.

finch1750 · 09-08-2016, 01:06 AM

base 86 is more bare bones in other countries. And the BRZ has nicer interior/more wiring etc that probably add up.

Tjs Blunts and Coffee · 09-08-2016, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.ac

Heavy BRZ badges, more air in the tires, some one took a shit before the weigh ins, some put their burrito in the BRZ, the BRZ was in the middle of the circle jerk, the 86 is bulimic.
Some one had a full tank of gas, some one took a shit in the BRZ. Take your pick. Or make up one.

For real? Dude, really?

I love burritos so I guess I'm going to have to go with the BRZ

humfrz · 09-08-2016, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finch1750

base 86 is more bare bones in other countries. And the BRZ has nicer interior/more wiring etc that probably add up.

Yep, I'll buy into this theory ....... just a bunch of little things that add up ....

humfrz

NARFALICIOUS · 09-08-2016, 02:14 AM

Hmm. That's heavier than 2016.

2016 FRS M/T - 2758 lbs
2016 BRZ M/T - 2764 lbs

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico_rsx

At least one other person (that would be me) is interested to know.
Since I do a lot of AutoX, 10-20lbs is a lot. I'm still more interested in the BRZ right now.
Also if you search in google "toyota 86 weight", you can see 2760lbs for the base 86.

The 10 lb difference is mostly going to be in the crap you remove or change out anyways if you're really that hardcore into weight reduction.
Which I am.

Sound deadening
Extra buttons/switches
Bumper design
Different Headlight
Maybe the Subaru were weighed with foglights because they're more common?
Different fender vent weight?
Different (more emblems on the BRZ?)
Different suspension
Does the BRZ come standard with the spoiler vs Toyota just an option?
I mean the list goes on...
Barebones to the meat of the car, it's the same weight and 10 lbs shouldn't make or break your decision on which car to get, regardless of how much of diehard weight reductionatificationing fan you are.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.ac

Heavy BRZ badges, more air in the tires, some one took a shit before the weigh ins, some put their burrito in the BRZ, the BRZ was in the middle of the circle jerk, the 86 is bulimic.
Some one had a full tank of gas, some one took a shit in the BRZ. Take your pick. Or make up one.

For real? Dude, really?

Scale was zero'd out differently on FRS/or BRZ weighing day ?

Tcoat · 09-08-2016, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NARFALICIOUS

Hmm. That's heavier than 2016.

2016 FRS M/T - 2758 lbs
2016 BRZ M/T - 2764 lbs

The 10 lb difference is mostly going to be in the crap you remove or change out anyways if you're really that hardcore into weight reduction.
Which I am.

Sound deadening
Extra buttons/switches
Bumper design
Different Headlight
Maybe the Subaru were weighed with foglights because they're more common?
Different fender vent weight?
Different (more emblems on the BRZ?)
Different suspension
Does the BRZ come standard with the spoiler vs Toyota just an option?
I mean the list goes on...
Barebones to the meat of the car, it's the same weight and 10 lbs shouldn't make or break your decision on which car to get, regardless of how much of diehard weight reductionatificationing fan you are.

The highlighted and the standard trunk mats.

Mim · 09-08-2016, 10:32 AM

I've seen most of my BRZ's interior removed. What is this sound deadening you speak of? That said the FRS always was the poverty pack of the two (features wise). All those amenities do add up in the end, but then I myself am pretty happy with every one of them

In AU the 86 GT model is pretty stripped out, but I think the FRS in the states was even more so.

Only the 86 RC version in Japan would of had less, and then not all that much less. I think it mostly was the lack or aircon really. Not sure, but wouldn't surprise me if the whole audio system was deleted too.

Tcoat · 09-08-2016, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mim

I've seen most of my BRZ's interior removed. What is this sound deadening you speak of? That said the FRS always was the poverty pack of the two (features wise). All those amenities do add up in the end, but then I myself am pretty happy with every one of them

In AU the 86 GT model is pretty stripped out, but I think the FRS in the states was even more so.

Only the 86 RC version in Japan would of had less, and then not all that much less. I think it mostly was the lack or aircon really. Not sure, but wouldn't surprise me if the whole audio system was deleted too.

The new ones have more sound reduction. That was one of the first new features that we had info on.

NyC Zn6 · 09-08-2016, 11:07 AM

heated seats lol

mdm · 09-08-2016, 11:10 AM

What about auto AC and seat heaters? Wasn't those always available in the BRZ but not in FRS except RS?

nikitopo · 09-08-2016, 11:39 AM

There are 2 versions of A/C. One plain and one dual zone.

FX86 · 09-08-2016, 11:40 AM

because the 86 is poor

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