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Old 06-22-2012, 06:52 PM   #127
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If you are talking about from the factory, then why speak of compression? You mentioned high compression. If they were going to make a factory F/I BRZ/FR-S then they would lower the compression naturally. So, when you spoke of the high compression and how boost would be require a lot of motor work...I naturally thought you were talking about aftermarket. Cause a OEM would not make a high compression + boosted car. Not this day and age.
If i remember correctly, don't they already have tested and tuned turbo FA20 going into the Legacy soon? I believe it produces around 290 -300 HP. If they are considering the turbo route, I can see them potentially just throwing that setup into the BRZ. I thought I read around here about a TRD Supercharger as well. If its a potential supercharger route, then I can only speculate that it will be a low boost application (at least if they keep the very high compression).

Again, my thoughts are that Subaru force induces almost every single one of their vehicles at some time (ie Forester, Impreza, Legacy, not sure on the Tribeca or the Outback). Which ever route (T/C or S/C), I think forced induction is a good option from the factory on the car, especially for us high altitude folks.

I don't think that a N/A 250HP 4-cylinder will be adequate for the high altitude crowd. Now... maybe if they dropped one of their new Boxer 6-cylinders....
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Old 06-22-2012, 07:30 PM   #128
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turbocharging, all-wheel drive and even bigger capacity engines are all on the product team’s to-do list.
A blow job from Scarlett Johansson is on my to-do list too, but that doesnt mean it's happening.
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:01 PM   #129
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If you are talking about from the factory, then why speak of compression? You mentioned high compression. If they were going to make a factory F/I BRZ/FR-S then they would lower the compression naturally. So, when you spoke of the high compression and how boost would be require a lot of motor work...I naturally thought you were talking about aftermarket. Cause a OEM would not make a high compression + boosted car. Not this day and age.

I was stating a fact, not trying to imply anything.
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Old 06-22-2012, 09:14 PM   #130
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Can we have a mod change the title of this thread.. it's far from true at this point.
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Old 06-23-2012, 09:41 AM   #131
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A factory STI version would probably gain weight...you guys do know the (Impreza) STI weighs more than the WRX?
Bigger spoiler = more weight
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Old 06-23-2012, 01:55 PM   #132
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Bigger spoiler = more weight

But it would add like.......50hp!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-23-2012, 11:38 PM   #133
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I was stating a fact, not trying to imply anything.

What fact? Please clarify cause we aren't on the same page it seems. I took what you said plain as day, and then you said you were talking about from the factory, and now your are saying you were stating a fact. What fact?
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I just can't see the point of a turbo. Shed some 100-200lbs in weight, remove the rear seats if need be, more aggressive suspension tuning, bigger brakes, better exhaust and intake, and a better ECU tune. You'd have a 2500lb car with 250-275hp. This car doesn't need a turbo.

Everyone is obsessed with FI to the point where if it isn't turbo then it needs to be somewhere along the line. I had a 240SX with an SR swap that weighed about 2300lbs, had 300hp, and made every attempt to kill me. 250-275hp in a 2500lb car is plenty fast enough.

AWD is not even an option on this. Every single part of the front suspension and chassis would need modifying to even get close to accepting the required AWD components. Adding almost 300lbs worth of weight to the front end and only bumping hp to 300 would result in almost exactly the same 0-60 times but with worse handling characteristics.
I can now stop lurking this thread knowing that atleast SOME people still have a lick of sense.
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What fact? Please clarify cause we aren't on the same page it seems. I took what you said plain as day, and then you said you were talking about from the factory, and now your are saying you were stating a fact. What fact?

The fact that I was talking about it being from the factory and not implying aftermarket..... You talked as though I didn't know what I was referring to even though I knew exactly what I was talking about.
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The fact that I was talking about it being from the factory and not implying aftermarket..... You talked as though I didn't know what I was referring to even though I knew exactly what I was talking about.

Yeah, and my next questions was, why would you be talking about the factory, when the factory would not build such a car (one with high compression and F/I)?

They would lower the compression naturally before adding in F/I. They do have a turbo FA20 already by the way, going into another Subaru car in the lineup.
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Yeah, and my next questions was, why would you be talking about the factory, when the factory would not build such a car (one with high compression and F/I)?

They would lower the compression naturally before adding in F/I. They do have a turbo FA20 already by the way, going into another Subaru car in the lineup.

Isn't that what I've been trying to say? That it wouldn't be used in this car? Now you're confusing me....
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I think for sure a Turbo and AWD will be on the BRZ platform,
but to make it happen the internals will have to be moved
and the car have to be a bit higher... it'll be the 2015 WRX Coupe
kinda like how the 2.5RS was back in the day.
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