Push button start issues

[djwishbone]

Originally Posted by XtremeMaC

the sensor for the immobilizer?

Originally Posted by djwishbone

Electric Starting Lock Assembly.

That is the only description I've been given. I did ask for an actual part number and wasn't given one.

[Bristecom]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Try a Subaru dealer for the part, it's a Subaru after all.

That part is actually made by Toyota/Tokai Rika. I believe it even has Toyota stamped on it. So no... not everything on these cars is Subaru sourced. I made a thread about this:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71898

[steve99]

Originally Posted by djwishbone

Here is the part they say they're replacing, didn't get the part number. Electric Starting Lock Assembly.

The push button start cars have an electricly operated steering lock, if it jams in lock position or does not unlock or its not detected that its unlocked completly car wont start. quite often you have to jiggle steering wheel to release it if poeple have turned wheel after locking car and their is pressure on lock mechanism. yours may be faulty .

[Stang70Fastback]

I'll just point out that shit sometimes happens. Just because a part failed on a brand new car doesn't mean you're in for a world of problems. Just means you happened to get a defective part. Nobody is perfect. I got an annoying rattle almost right away when I bought my BRZ. Thought, "Oh great. Already having problems." Turned out to be a defective heat shield band clamp that I was able to fix myself and 30,000 miles later, no other real issues.

It will be fixed. It's probably a very uncommon part to replace which would explain why they don't stock it (though a 3 week wait seems a bit excessive).

[djwishbone]

From past experience I'm wary of electronic gremlins as replacing the failed part may not be the root of the issue. However I'm remaining cautiously optimistic. Still waiting for the part to get in. They were able to "expedite" it to arrive next week (maybe). I've tried to push them on this as much as I can, all I can do now is wait.

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[djwishbone]

Picked up the car today, now the steering wheel does not lock at all, the car beeps all the time when the door is open regardless of what's going on (like it's detecting something still on/open), and the car will start about 80% of the time I push the button, which is definitely better than 0%. It's back at the dealer again.

[djwishbone]

Another update. Toyota is telling them to replace some "control module ECU behind the steering lock assembly". Not sure if that's the BIU or the actual ECU, or something else It has been in the shop 16 days at this point. I'm waiting to hear how long this part will take.

I pushed them for additional options and they have offered to replace the vehicle with an identical (new) one on the lot, but I have a lot of money already into re-tinting and clear-bra protection.

What do you guys think? Still think it's worth letting them fix it? I'd really like to start modifying this vehicle, but now I'm feeling chained to stock because I'll actually need my warranty. If I trade in the vehicle, I'm out a bunch of cash that I'm relatively certain they will not cover. I see my options at this point.

1. Continue to see if they can fix it? Do I trust them to remove all of these major electronic components and get them back in without future issues on a brand new vehicle?

2. Trade in for an identical one on the lot losing the significant amount I already have in the vehicle.

3. I'm considering asking for a 2017 allotment instead as an option, might be worth letting the cash go on the personally applied upgrades.

4. Push for lemon and get full refund minus personal upgrade expenses, similar to #3 but gives me more options on what to get as a replacement.

Open to suggestions, even those I may not want to hear.

[gramicci101]

How much money do you have into it? I'd be very tempted to do a complete swap for a new 16 or 17 allotment and just start over, because I'd never be able to enjoy the current car without wondering if it's about to shit itself.

When do the 17s come out? It's all well and good to get one of the new cars once it comes in, but you need a car until that point, as well.

[XtremeMaC]

2017 with the extra 5hp would be great with upgraded looks and whatnot..

not sure what you've done so far to the vehicle, but I'd go with replacing if they've already suggested that I'd take it. who knows what other issues you'll run into.

can you remove the upgrades from the current vehicle and apply to the replacement?

[djwishbone]

$1200 in tint removal/replacement and clear-bra. 2017 frs can't be ordered yet as far as I know. Only the brz. Thanks for the feedback. I've definitely lost trust in the vehicle.

I'm fortunate enough not to need the vehicle, so I'll still have something to get me around until I can get a replacement.

[iamjacob]

If the dealer is willing to replace your car with a new one you might just ask to have them throw in covering tint and a bra as part of the deal. A lot dealers have connections with tint places so you might get lucky there.

I would be surprised if they ordered you a 2017 as a replacement.

[XtremeMaC]

frankly I'm surprised they even suggested replacement. wish I bought mine from that dealer. wonder how their service is because I'm not even happy with the service... (ps. purchased the vehicle in VA, now I'm at MI)

[iamjacob]

Originally Posted by XtremeMaC

frankly I'm surprised they even suggested replacement. wish I bought mine from that dealer. wonder how their service is because I'm not even happy with the service... (ps. purchased the vehicle in VA, now I'm at MI)

Depending on the state the OP is from, they are slowly approaching lemon law territory. In CA its 30 days in the shop or 4 trips to the shop for the same reason. A stand up dealership is hopefully trying to keep their customer happy.

Taking a loss on a car (reselling it as CPO after getting it fixed) but keeping a customer is better than taking a loss and losing a customer.

[djwishbone]

Right. It's the same law here too. 30/4. This is an exceptional dealer though. They haven't told me no on anything yet. Sounds like the switch can only happen on identical vehicles so no 2017 option unless I request a buyback from Toyota. I did call corporate and open a case today to investigate all my options. Still waiting to hear on the final word from the dealer on a car swap with them paying for or providing the upgrades. Thanks for the responses.

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