Camber

[KieranH]

Originally Posted by Filipino Royale

Im selling my spc LCA, im in NY too. And can point u to right direction to have it aligned too.

Thank you for the offer, however I live in the UK.

I've looked around and I've read things such as the Stance LCA's require to have coilovers fitted. Now which LCA's are good for cars with air ride?

[swarb]

Originally Posted by KieranH

I'm looking to create camber. So preferably as much as I can to make the wheels fit.



As much that is necessary to make wheels fit in the arches when aired out.



Sounds like I'll need toe arms aswell. What do you mean by can/can't slip?

They can slip is the opinion of people who track their cars and drive very hard, although highly unlikely. It can slip because the adjustment is from the oval bolt holes.
Those only have about +/-2 degrees of adjustment. Depending on your wheel setup, it might not be enough if you are going to get huge/wide/low offset wheels and need extreme camber.

[swarb]

Originally Posted by KieranH

Thank you for the offer, however I live in the UK.

I've looked around and I've read things such as the Stance LCA's require to have coilovers fitted. Now which LCA's are good for cars with air ride?

It is "required" because it changes the mounting point of the suspension so it lowers the car, which would make the rear of a stock-unadjustable suspension be lower in the rear aka not match the front. They will work fine with airbags as long as you have a reasonable range of adjustment. They lower an extra 60mm.

[KieranH]

Originally Posted by swarb

It is "required" because it changes the mounting point of the suspension so it lowers the car, which would make the rear of a stock-unadjustable suspension be lower in the rear aka not match the front. They will work fine with airbags as long as you have a reasonable range of adjustment. They lower an extra 60mm.

Perfect thank you for the information. I'm pretty sure air ride would lower the car more than 60mm. Is there a way to tell how much camber each LCA can provide?

[swarb]

Originally Posted by KieranH

Perfect thank you for the information. I'm pretty sure air ride would lower the car more than 60mm. Is there a way to tell how much camber each LCA can provide?

Stance 1.0 lca lowers 25mm
2.0 lowers 60mm

No mention of how much adjustment, but it should be good for 5-6+ negative camber plus about 3 degrees natural camber, should net close to 8-9, maybe you can email them and ask. I don't know why you would want more than that, it makes for a pretty stupid(in a bad way) setup. I would advise you to worry more about finding the perfect offset/widths, inner bag clearance, and a good tire size/brand that stretches good. Racer x upper control arm is also an option(+lca) if you need 10+ camber

[KieranH]

Originally Posted by swarb

Stance 1.0 lca lowers 25mm
2.0 lowers 60mm

No mention of how much adjustment, but it should be good for 5-6+ negative camber plus about 3 degrees natural camber, should net close to 8-9, maybe you can email them and ask. I don't know why you would want more than that, it makes for a pretty stupid(in a bad way) setup. I would advise you to worry more about finding the perfect offset/widths, inner bag clearance, and a good tire size/brand that stretches good. Racer x upper control arm is also an option(+lca) if you need 10+ camber

As much as I like the camber stance look, the UK roads wouldn't allow camber anywhere near -10 aha, I'm aiming for around -7. So do you think the V2 stance ones would be good for me? I've had people tell they use GTSpec and another tell me Megan racing.

[churchx]

-10? -7? Please, be more sensible with camber (and drop). Imho it's plain stupid if you willingly choose to do that even knowing that it will make car worse. And it won't even look cool in eyes of anyone whose opinion should be valued, rather contrary - it would make them think that car owner is stupid poser that pays to make car worse.

[VIP BRZ]

Originally Posted by KieranH

As much as I like the camber stance look, the UK roads wouldn't allow camber anywhere near -10 aha, I'm aiming for around -7. So do you think the V2 stance ones would be good for me? I've had people tell they use GTSpec and another tell me Megan racing.

I just got some LCA's from Power By Max, they actually mount even lower then the stance V2 and there like literally half the price.

-7 you'll need to change to adjustable toe arms as well

you want -7 in front?

[swarb]

Originally Posted by KieranH

As much as I like the camber stance look, the UK roads wouldn't allow camber anywhere near -10 aha, I'm aiming for around -7. So do you think the V2 stance ones would be good for me? I've had people tell they use GTSpec and another tell me Megan racing.

I would stay away from megan. While they work fine initialy, from my previous experience on another car, they rusted/got stuck, etc in southern California where rust is not a problem. 4-5mm of adjustment comes out to about 1 degree of camber. I would ask the manufacturer to see how much adjustment range they have. 3-4 degrees of adjustment + natural camber should get you to -7. I would suggest something with a warranty, rubber or metal bushings of your choice, and ease of adjustment, oh and color . Like I mentioned before, I would worry more about finding the perfect wheel widths/offsets, inner bag clearance, and the right tire and size that stretches good.

[KieranH]

Originally Posted by churchx

-10? -7? Please, be more sensible with camber (and drop). Imho it's plain stupid if you willingly choose to do that even knowing that it will make car worse. And it won't even look cool in eyes of anyone whose opinion should be valued, rather contrary - it would make them think that car owner is stupid poser that pays to make car worse.

First off, nobody asked for your opinion. If you're going to be negative go else where, as all I am doing is asking questions so I can build the car to how I like it. Secondly, modifying a car doesn't necessarily mean you are making it better.

Originally Posted by VIP BRZ

I just got some LCA's from Power By Max, they actually mount even lower then the stance V2 and there like literally half the price.

-7 you'll need to change to adjustable toe arms as well

you want -7 in front?

I plan to get toe arms as well. I would like to have a small degree of camber on the front, but I've heard it's hard to achieve anything below -1 degree due to bag clearance, and will require cutting and welding. This will probably be something I'll look into more once the car is bagged.

Originally Posted by swarb

I would stay away from megan. While they work fine initialy, from my previous experience on another car, they rusted/got stuck, etc in southern California where rust is not a problem. 4-5mm of adjustment comes out to about 1 degree of camber. I would ask the manufacturer to see how much adjustment range they have. 3-4 degrees of adjustment + natural camber should get you to -7. I would suggest something with a warranty, rubber or metal bushings of your choice, and ease of adjustment, oh and color . Like I mentioned before, I would worry more about finding the perfect wheel widths/offsets, inner bag clearance, and the right tire and size that stretches good.

Thank you for the information, I appreciate it. I've looked into wheel sizes and tyres, however I've not looked into bag clearance as I haven't even got the car yet. Although I'm picking it up tomorrow.

[gramicci101]

Check out the aggressive wheel thread. That sounds like what you're looking for, and those guys have a whole lot of information about fitting wheels into the wheel wells with heavy camber.


From memory, you'll need some custom parts to achieve the camber you're looking for. RacerX Fabrication makes them. Adjustable front control arms, adjustable rear upper control arms, etc...

[KieranH]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

Check out the aggressive wheel thread. That sounds like what you're looking for, and those guys have a whole lot of information about fitting wheels into the wheel wells with heavy camber.


From memory, you'll need some custom parts to achieve the camber you're looking for. RacerX Fabrication makes them. Adjustable front control arms, adjustable rear upper control arms, etc...

Ah perfect, thank you for the input.

[Filipino Royale]

Originally Posted by PandaSPUR

Thats got me a bit worried, i was planning to go with SPC LCAs because I heard good things about them, including from the shop I use (AZP)

You cant go wrong with SPC LCA. I Daily and track them. No problem at all. But now part out comes, if your looking for one. I can take out mine, cause if not it will comes with the trade in.

[PandaSPUR]

Originally Posted by Filipino Royale

You cant go wrong with SPC LCA. I Daily and track them. No problem at all. But now part out comes, if your looking for one. I can take out mine, cause if not it will comes with the trade in.

Already buying through AZP with install included in price, so I think I'll pass, especially cause they probably ordered one for me already. Thanks tho, appreciate it.