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Old 06-17-2016, 08:21 PM   #15
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I've bought mine with cash so there's no problems with financing. Still, I'd prefer keeping it intact for a while more.

...Although any spending on another car is tax deductible
Go for it. I really like having a DD/"winter car"

more miles for track days, don't have to worry about maintenance as much. Less rust, though there still in quite some!@
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Old 06-18-2016, 09:42 AM   #16
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Go for it. I really like having a DD/"winter car"

more miles for track days, don't have to worry about maintenance as much. Less rust, though there still in quite some!@
Winter? What's that?
I'm just north of Sydney, Australia. If I want to see snow I have to travel to the mountains far south (I know, the wrong way).

There is no winter here, believe me. All the rust comes from sea salt in the air
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Old 06-18-2016, 09:44 AM   #17
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I've done ~25 track days and have seen a fair number of wrecks. Last year I was following behind someone in his BRZ when he lost the rear end exiting a fast corner. He hit the tire wall and totaled his car. A lot of spins from RWD cars (BRZ, S2000, MR2, NSX, E36 M3, Miata etc.) A couple of offs caused by fluid on the track or issues with brakes/suspension. No car-to-car incidents I can think of though.

Personally I haven't gone 4-wheels off yet (*knock on wood), but have gone 2-wheels off a few times, mostly trying to pass similar speed cars in corners or driving in the rain.

I've noticed that a lot of incidents happen in the first few laps of a session (cold tires), in the last session of the last day, or during open track time when people have been out driving over 30 minutes. Those are probably good times to take things down a notch. As others have said, if you use common sense and push your limits slowly, you should be fine. Just keep in mind the trophy at the end of your track day is the shiny car you get to drive home.
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Old 06-18-2016, 09:41 PM   #18
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So, it can happen anywhere, I got hit from behind at the air up station by a guy that changed his brake pads and forgot to pump up the pedal. Unfortunately I have been the guy that oiled down the track twice. Once at Blackhawk when the old Mini engine decided to put rod parts out through the radiator, and once at south Carolina motor sports park when the LS1 thought that a hole in the bottom of the engine would improve cooling.
Have had various part left on the track by others come through the radiator and windshield.
Over the years have had too many agricultural excursions bending various parts. A few bumps with others.
Still I do not know what I could have turned in to insurance. Maybe I have been lucky for fifty years playing at the track. (I did take a few years off for children.)
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Old 06-18-2016, 09:50 PM   #19
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If you can afford to lose the car, no need for insurance. If you cannot afford to lose the car, don't track it. I have only had dirt and rocks unseat my tires. I have seen totaled cars. Fortunately, I have seen no injuries.
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Old 06-18-2016, 11:05 PM   #20
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Has anyone made a claim on track day insurance? I often wonder how that would go?
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Old 06-19-2016, 08:53 PM   #21
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Has anyone made a claim on track day insurance? I often wonder how that would go?
I've heard of one or two that have, it went very smoothly and they paid out promptly.
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Old 06-20-2016, 12:14 AM   #22
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In my opinion situational awareness is likely the biggest factor in helping one avoid multi-car incidents on track. I've had several experiences where another car would have made contact with me even though I had position if I had not been aware of their presence. Use your mirrors. A lot. And look far ahead.
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Old 06-20-2016, 10:50 AM   #23
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I've heard of one or two that have, it went very smoothly and they paid out promptly.
Yeah, buddy of mine put his car into a tire wall at Road America, thankfully not too badly. He had a lockton policy and it seemed like his experience working with them was a pretty positive one.
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I've been tracking my daily driver for about 3 years now. (No Space for a second) Knock on wood I've never had an incident. Just remember that it IS NOT A RACE. There has been plenty of times where me an another car "go at it" but always with the respect of not doing anything that could put each other at risk, always leaving space, always using a point by, and knowing where the limit is.

Always drive within your means, use your mirrors, and leave the ego at home.Everyone is there for the same reason. All Are gear heads !!!
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Old 06-20-2016, 08:43 PM   #25
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Had a very bad accident myself. Driving too hard on a rainy day at Laguna Seca. Lost the car in a very simple slide, but stayed on the throttle too long. Car caught traction after a tank slapper and sent the car head on into the wall around 40-45mph. Hit hard enough that my foot slipped off the clutch pedal and my ankle actually bent the entire pedal assembly and damn near folded my foot in half. Engine was torn off its mounts, trans mount sheared, center support bearing exploded, diff pushed out of the subframe. Happy to still be here.

Insurance covered the car completely. Told them exactly what happened, and where, and they still covered the car(I understand this to be a situational instance i.e no one else involved, no property damage, no reported injuries). They ended up not using my GAP insurance either, and I ended up $150 ahead. I don't think it could have gone better, except not crashing altogether. Currently driving a salvaged title(due to hydrolocked engine, now has 2015 engine with 7k) FRS that was picked up for cash, and I purchase track insurance on rainy days. Know your limits, and stick to them. I track 1-2 times month on average but still don't consider myself an experienced enough driver to drive 10/10th's.



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Had a very bad accident myself. Driving too hard on a rainy day at Laguna Seca.
Ouch. Which corner?
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