follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Wheels | Tires | Spacers | Hub -- Sponsored by The Tire Rack

Wheels | Tires | Spacers | Hub -- Sponsored by The Tire Rack Specific topics relating to wheels and tires.

Register and become an FT86Club.com member. You will see fewer ads

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-13-2016, 10:10 AM   #1
Silver Cervy
*Some really cool title*
 
Silver Cervy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Limited
Location: Matthews, NC
Posts: 343
Thanks: 39
Thanked 211 Times in 125 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Anyone have pics showing their wheel offset?

I've been looking at wheels for awhile, but for all the ones that I've checked out I can't get a good look at how pronounced the offset is. Most of the ones I've seen have either 40 or 45 mm but idk how that actually looks in person. Can anyone who has pictures showing their wheel offset post them here to give me a good idea how it looks? Please include the measurement as well.
Silver Cervy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2016, 01:00 PM   #2
mav1178
Senior Member
 
mav1178's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry
Location: 91745
Posts: 6,562
Thanks: 493
Thanked 6,099 Times in 3,030 Posts
Mentioned: 95 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7535

and...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Cervy View Post
I've been looking at wheels for awhile, but for all the ones that I've checked out I can't get a good look at how pronounced the offset is.
You cannot tell how "pronounced the offset is" by a picture. +45 offset on a 7" wide wheel is not the same as +45 on a 10" wide wheel.

I think you need to clarify what you are looking for...

-alex
mav1178 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to mav1178 For This Useful Post:
Leonardo (06-13-2016)
Old 06-13-2016, 07:29 PM   #3
Silver Cervy
*Some really cool title*
 
Silver Cervy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Limited
Location: Matthews, NC
Posts: 343
Thanks: 39
Thanked 211 Times in 125 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I'm looking at 8" wide wheels. I know that negative offset is the "deep dish" style of wheel, and I've seen many in person, but I've never seen wheels where the spokes are protruding farther out than the actual wheel is.

It's possible that I'm being an idiot and getting this wrong, but I've looked at multiple sources explaining wheel offset and it's still confusing me. Is it just an aesthetic thing or does it actually effect wheel fitment?
Silver Cervy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2016, 07:46 PM   #4
Leonardo
Country Boy 4 Life
 
Leonardo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 19' & 06' Ridgelines, 13' FR-S
Location: EUGENE
Posts: 5,228
Thanks: 6,719
Thanked 5,293 Times in 2,720 Posts
Mentioned: 47 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Cervy View Post
I'm looking at 8" wide wheels. I know that negative offset is the "deep dish" style of wheel, and I've seen many in person, but I've never seen wheels where the spokes are protruding farther out than the actual wheel is.

It's possible that I'm being an idiot and getting this wrong, but I've looked at multiple sources explaining wheel offset and it's still confusing me. Is it just an aesthetic thing or does it actually effect wheel fitment?
Please click and read the first two links...
https://www.google.com/search?site=&...i3.jDfpsICQBoQ
Leonardo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2016, 09:52 PM   #5
Silver Cervy
*Some really cool title*
 
Silver Cervy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Limited
Location: Matthews, NC
Posts: 343
Thanks: 39
Thanked 211 Times in 125 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Ok, I think I get it now. Negative offset = wider stance and positive offset = narrower stance, basically. Still kind of confused about how changing wheel size but not offset can be bad for a car.
Silver Cervy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2016, 01:48 AM   #6
DuMa
Senior Member
 
DuMa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Drives: LR BRZ Limited
Location: PNW
Posts: 904
Thanks: 199
Thanked 648 Times in 276 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
www.frsproject.com

Just play with this and you will soon understand what offsets are and which offsets and width wheels fit our cars best
DuMa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2016, 12:01 PM   #7
Leonardo
Country Boy 4 Life
 
Leonardo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 19' & 06' Ridgelines, 13' FR-S
Location: EUGENE
Posts: 5,228
Thanks: 6,719
Thanked 5,293 Times in 2,720 Posts
Mentioned: 47 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Couldn't help it. I think they "originated" from H-Town. Swangas!

Leonardo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2016, 12:40 PM   #8
venturaII
Only users lose drugs.
 
venturaII's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Drives: All the time
Location: Shrewsbury upon Worcestershire
Posts: 1,834
Thanks: 888
Thanked 1,078 Times in 681 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leonardo View Post
Couldn't help it. I think they "originated" from H-Town. Swangas!





That's actually a very good example of how irrelevant the spokes of a wheel are when it comes to the wheel's ET number. It's strictly the relationship of the wheel's mounting surface at the hub as compared to the centerline of the wheel's width. The spokes can be whatever shape the designers want.
venturaII is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to venturaII For This Useful Post:
Leonardo (06-14-2016)
Old 06-14-2016, 01:09 PM   #9
mav1178
Senior Member
 
mav1178's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry
Location: 91745
Posts: 6,562
Thanks: 493
Thanked 6,099 Times in 3,030 Posts
Mentioned: 95 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Cervy View Post
Ok, I think I get it now. Negative offset = wider stance and positive offset = narrower stance, basically. Still kind of confused about how changing wheel size but not offset can be bad for a car.
I'll just be nice...

You need to do research. And you need to actually read what you look up.

Offset has nothing to do with wheel stance, wheel width, or even spoke design.

Offset is, simply, the measurement (in mm, usually) from the centerline of the wheel to the mounting surface of the wheel.

This info by itself is relatively useless unless you know what width the wheel is, then the two can be put together to determine fitment.

Before you confuse yourself, you need to look at each aspect of wheel spec and take it at face value, then combine them once you fully understand what it means.

http://www.autoanything.com/wheels-r...el-backspacing

-alex
mav1178 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to mav1178 For This Useful Post:
Leonardo (06-14-2016)
Old 06-14-2016, 04:59 PM   #10
Bamsterman
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Drives: 13' Scion FRS
Location: SWFL
Posts: 124
Thanks: 8
Thanked 47 Times in 25 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Bamsterman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2016, 06:59 PM   #11
Silver Cervy
*Some really cool title*
 
Silver Cervy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Limited
Location: Matthews, NC
Posts: 343
Thanks: 39
Thanked 211 Times in 125 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mav1178 View Post
I'll just be nice...

You need to do research. And you need to actually read what you look up.

Offset has nothing to do with wheel stance, wheel width, or even spoke design.

Offset is, simply, the measurement (in mm, usually) from the centerline of the wheel to the mounting surface of the wheel.

This info by itself is relatively useless unless you know what width the wheel is, then the two can be put together to determine fitment.

Before you confuse yourself, you need to look at each aspect of wheel spec and take it at face value, then combine them once you fully understand what it means.

http://www.autoanything.com/wheels-r...el-backspacing

-alex
Taken from the link you provided...

"With a lower offset, your wheels mount farther outward, providing a wider vehicle stance."

When I said negative offset = wider stance, I meant generally and not in all cases. No need to call me out just because I know less than you do.
Silver Cervy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2016, 07:53 PM   #12
mav1178
Senior Member
 
mav1178's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry
Location: 91745
Posts: 6,562
Thanks: 493
Thanked 6,099 Times in 3,030 Posts
Mentioned: 95 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Cervy View Post
Taken from the link you provided...

"With a lower offset, your wheels mount farther outward, providing a wider vehicle stance."

When I said negative offset = wider stance, I meant generally and not in all cases. No need to call me out just because I know less than you do.
Generally, yes, but offset is like tire aspect ratio. It's useless without knowing the rest of the specs.

The link says what you quoted, but it also assumes you are using the same width wheels for reference.

Believe it or not, 8" wide +35 offset wheels have a more narrow stance than 9" wide wheel with a +45 offset, assuming it's from the same manufacturer. As I said in my previous post, wheel offset is useless if you don't know width.

-alex
mav1178 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2016, 08:24 PM   #13
Silver Cervy
*Some really cool title*
 
Silver Cervy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Limited
Location: Matthews, NC
Posts: 343
Thanks: 39
Thanked 211 Times in 125 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I assume it's just a matter of converting everything into inches. Once you know how much percentage of an inch is being added in offset you'd factor in the increased wheel diameter to figure out the true positioning of the wheels.

I could still be talking out my rear end though. Just trying to put it in a way that makes sense to me.
Silver Cervy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2016, 08:55 PM   #14
Leonardo
Country Boy 4 Life
 
Leonardo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 19' & 06' Ridgelines, 13' FR-S
Location: EUGENE
Posts: 5,228
Thanks: 6,719
Thanked 5,293 Times in 2,720 Posts
Mentioned: 47 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Cervy View Post
I assume it's just a matter of converting everything into inches. Once you know how much percentage of an inch is being added in offset you'd factor in the increased wheel diameter to figure out the true positioning of the wheels.

I could still be talking out my rear end though. Just trying to put it in a way that makes sense to me.
Man, it's phrases like " I assume" and " a way that make sense to me " that are frustrating. If you understand the material, you won't have to assume or make it make sense.

Wheel fitment is a multifaceted and complicated thing. Please keep reading.
Leonardo is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Effect of wheel offset ddeflyer Tracking / Autocross / HPDE / Drifting 8 07-02-2014 06:29 AM
Enkei RPF1 18x9.5 5x100 38mm Offset Black Wheel - Exclusive Tony Angelo Edition Wheel Infamous Performance Wheels and Tires 122 02-13-2014 11:34 AM
Lowered 1" and have a 265/35 or 255/35 tire +38 offset please post pics! ScionFR-S Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing 11 01-30-2014 02:26 PM
Stock Wheel offset smbrm Wheels | Tires | Spacers | Hub -- Sponsored by The Tire Rack 2 09-15-2012 12:09 PM
wheel offset post pics! gt86init Wheels | Tires | Spacers | Hub -- Sponsored by The Tire Rack 7 07-06-2012 05:23 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:22 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.