Which lightweight N/A V6 or H6 to choose?

[XanRules]

Alright dude, fine. Whatever. Good luck with your easy and reliable custom oil pan goals for 2016.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by bradsm87

BS. That type of oil pan can (and does all the time) be modified. It's NOT a deal-breaker. If cutting and welding is too difficult, I know a guy that can CNC the top half and I can box up and get a lower half welded to it just like the 2GR swap into an 86 (google it).

Then stop asking questions and do it.

[bradsm87]

Anyway, how about a constructive post? - I give you, the Holden VZ Commodore Ly7 (earlier port injected version of the LFX) oil pan. Bolts right up!:

[protpibe]

and here's some fairy dust to go with it

[-Willis-86touge]

Originally Posted by bradsm87

Anyway, how about a constructive post? - I give you, the Holden VZ Commodore Ly7 (earlier port injected version of the LFX) oil pan. Bolts right up!:

I was just looking at this and about to post about it too, lol
By the way, lfx is 20 pounds lighter then the llt witch was stated to be 370 installed (so with accessories) so that would make the lfx 350 installed witch goes back to saying it would make our front end 30lbs lighter seeing how the fa20 weighs 380lbs

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by bradsm87

Anyway, how about a constructive post?

Because everyone knows at this point if you could overcome the fabrication challenges to do whatever swap you're thinking of, you'd be out in the garage making it happen vs on the Internet asking questions.

[EAGLE5]

I'm going to a build a great V6-powered car, and Mexico is going to pay for it! I'm also a great listener. I also don't yet own the car I'm going to do an engine swap on. Why aren't you guys taking me seriously?

[XanRules]

Originally Posted by -Willis-86touge

I was just looking at this and about to post about it too, lol

Will this not still bump into the crossmember and steering rack, given that the 86 uses a completely different setup than so many other cars?

In every diagram, photo, and writeup I can see the two oil pans are identical to the untrained eye. It would astound me if that one was so different that you could just swap it in and all of the issues were solved.

[protpibe]

Fighting the forum roast and insisting the swap of the century is well into the planning phase.....

.... but shopping for FA20 headers lol

[Lynxis]

No one wants to do a V6 swap because why bother when for the same time, effort and cost, you can get V8 power but I understand where OP comes from.

For road racing, I'd have a hard time thinking a V6 wouldn't be the better engine for our cars. There are literally no downsides compared to anything else you can do. From the videos I've seen and blogs I've read, I feel like V8 torque overpowers our chassis and makes the car difficult to control which isn't something you want on track. That 300+ hp from a recent aluminium V6 would be lighter and more reliable than a FI FA20 and also dat throttle response.

There are certain challenges though. Not many have bothered with such a swap (see opening statement as to why) also the V6s are usually taller than V8s. Still, let us know how this goes for you OP, would be interesting to see.

[bradsm87]

Originally Posted by XanRules

Will this not still bump into the crossmember and steering rack, given that the 86 uses a completely different setup than so many other cars?

In every diagram, photo, and writeup I can see the two oil pans are identical to the untrained eye. It would astound me if that one was so different that you could just swap it in and all of the issues were solved.

There are multiple different types of LY7 oil pan. The VE Commodore LY7 oil pan is the same as the ones in the US-based RWD cars. The earlier VZ Commodore ones are different. The VE commodore has rack in front of crossmember. The VZ Commodore has rack behind crossmember.

Front-to-back, it'll either just work or work with very minor modification. The issue probably is that it'll need to go down really low, making the oil pan hang down. It may need cutting and shortening for good ground clearance.

[bradsm87]

Originally Posted by protpibe

Fighting the forum roast and insisting the swap of the century is well into the planning phase.....

.... but shopping for FA20 headers lol

WTF? I'm interested to know out of interest and for the information of RHD owners. The A-350 isn't RHD compatible but the CS400 is, so asking if the A-400 will be RHD compatible out of interest is a perfectly acceptable question.

[-Willis-86touge]

Originally Posted by XanRules

Will this not still bump into the crossmember and steering rack, given that the 86 uses a completely different setup than so many other cars?

In every diagram, photo, and writeup I can see the two oil pans are identical to the untrained eye. It would astound me if that one was so different that you could just swap it in and all of the issues were solved.

This is the front sump diagram

[bradsm87]

Originally Posted by -Willis-86touge

I was just looking at this and about to post about it too, lol
By the way, lfx is 20 pounds lighter then the llt witch was stated to be 370 installed (so with accessories) so that would make the lfx 350 installed witch goes back to saying it would make our front end 30lbs lighter seeing how the fa20 weighs 380lbs

I think it's the LY7 that's 370lb and the LLT (First generation direct injection) put on some weight, then the LFX lost 20lb from that. Either way, it's a pretty light engine. It's certainly very easy having the single exhaust port per bank. It does make me wonder how much more performance it could have had with individual exhaust ports and headers tho