Edelbrock vs Jackson Racing

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by JGalp

Hey all,

Just wanted to preface this a bit, i have a 2015 brz. all i have are cosmetic upgrades and tein flex z, SPL LCA, and 17x9 rpf1. my next step was to go FI and i thought it came down to JRSC vs edelbrock. after reading many reviews i thought both kits were great, similar power numbers at CARB, similar in most aspects. was under the impression that JRSC was more track oriented and and edelbrock was better for someone just DD (like myself) i do not intend to track, or even auto x. just your occasional spirited driving and cruising through some canyons.

recently, i spoke with a local vendor (i will not name the vendor) who told me the following about why i should just JRSC over the edelbrock. He said that not only does the edelbrock make 50hp less than JRSC, but it is also less reliable, 5-6 less MPG and the intercooler system on the edelbrock isn't as good as the JRSC. Oh and yes the edelbrock isn't CARB legal yet.

Ive already read many threads on both kits and i was under the impression that both had similar MPG loss, similar power, and i thought the edelbrock was j just as reliable. can anyone chime in on this? thanks

John

That guy is a liar, find a different vendor...

Jaden

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by Fenix

I am second guessing boosting my FA20 engine after reading this thread and elsewhere online. lol A NA swap might be in its future. :/

Why are you second guessing? Reliability? Performance? An NA engine swap will be inherently more complex and less reliable.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by BigFatFlip

Why are you second guessing? Reliability? Performance? An NA engine swap will be inherently more complex and less reliable.

Inherently more complex.

But less reliable? I'd take the reliability of an LSx swap over a boosted, stock internal FA20 every day of the week.

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

Inherently more complex.

But less reliable? I'd take the reliability of an LSx swap over a boosted, stock internal FA20 every day of the week.

I was making broad strokes, but agreed

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

Inherently more complex.

But less reliable? I'd take the reliability of an LSx swap over a boosted, stock internal FA20 every day of the week.

Well, if I had the budget for a trans, axles, diff, driveshaft, and ECU, I would too!

[Sleepless]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

Inherently more complex.

But less reliable? I'd take the reliability of an LSx swap over a boosted, stock internal FA20 every day of the week.

The engine may be reliable, but the rest of the car probably not so much, at least not until all the swap related bugs are worked out and after things that can't handle the power are upgraded appropriately ('cause many will be missed even if the project is planned properly).

To get reliability out of the box, it would be much better to just get a Camaro

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Sleepless

The engine may be reliable, but the rest of the car probably not so much, at least not until all the swap related bugs are worked out and after things that can't handle the power are upgraded appropriately ('cause many will be missed even if the project is planned properly).

To get reliability out of the box, it would be much better to just get a Camaro

Scratch Camaro and insert GT350 with the Track Package.

[Sleepless]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

Scratch Camaro and insert GT350 with the Track Package.

Camaro with the LE1 suspension package will likely keep up with or beat a GT350 with a track pack and cost thousands less (MSRP; but GT350s are $10-$20 over right now) and have low end torque when not driving it on the track.

I was thinking of getting a 350 but after reading reviews, seeing the power curves, and driving a Camaro, I'm convinced it is the better all around car and easily the equal of the 350.

Back on topic:

I like the JRSC but would have likely picked the Edlebrock if it had as much track testing by forum members when I pulled the trigger in October (the Edlebrock just became available).

The reason: same as why I'd pick the Camaro over the GT350; low end torque

[paiceyfan]

Does anyone have a chart showing oil temps for a stock plus edelbrock...just to give me an idea of where they might max out? If you have ambient at the time, that would help. Alternatively, point me in the right direction


Thanks.

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by paiceyfan

Does anyone have a chart showing oil temps for a stock plus edelbrock...just to give me an idea of where they might max out? If you have ambient at the time, that would help. Alternatively, point me in the right direction


Thanks.

Check the owners thread, I vaguely recall some charts posted up.

Stock I've seen my temps reach 230 at around 75 ambient going up Mt Hamilton. On the track, I've maxed at 219 at about 80 ambient with a custom oil cooler.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Sleepless

Camaro with the LE1 suspension package will likely keep up with or beat a GT350 with a track pack and cost thousands less (MSRP; but GT350s are $10-$20 over right now) and have low end torque when not driving it on the track.

I was thinking of getting a 350 but after reading reviews, seeing the power curves, and driving a Camaro, I'm convinced it is the better all around car and easily the equal of the 350.

Back on topic:

I like the JRSC but would have likely picked the Edlebrock if it had as much track testing by forum members when I pulled the trigger in October (the Edlebrock just became available).

The reason: same as why I'd pick the Camaro over the GT350; low end torque

Ace A/350 header + E85 = lots of low/mid range torque gains.

[Sleepless]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Ace A/350 header + E85 = lots of low/mid range torque gains.

E85 is not an option for me.

Header is an option if it gives noticeably more torque on 92.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Sleepless

E85 is not an option for me.

Header is an option if it gives noticeably more torque on 92.

You'll still have very noticeable low end gains. E85 primarily gives top end gains.

[JGalp]

Originally Posted by Jaden

That guy is a liar, find a different vendor...

Jaden

I would love to agree, but i have def experienced roughphy 5mpg loss, and this isn't getting on it every chance i get, its about a 50/50 mix of highway and city and me trying to drive conservatively, still getting about 21mpg which is me driving fairly conservatively. when i first got it i got lower MPG cuz well it was fun testing it out. I'm assuming this is about normal though. are most peoples MPG around 20-22 in 50/50 city/hwy driving conditions