YES! AWD Turbo BRZ in the works for sure!!! - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Tman08 · 06-19-2012, 01:03 PM

Looks like the author Steve Davies just want people to visit his site with out of context quotes.

Another site too that's doing it:

http://www.am-online.com/news/2012/6...brz-sti/31142/

title says "Subaru confirms turbo BRZ STI", yet there's no quote confirming it.

Now for an actual quote:

"Plus, we want to keep turbocharging separate. It is for models like the WRX STI," Atake told Auto Express. "The same goes for four-wheel drive. We could not make the BRZ four-wheel drive even if we wanted to."

So I take things with a very tiny grain of salt whenever I hear things like this. I am happy with the normal BRZ, but if an STI is out before I plan to get mine late Spring-Summer 13' (and like it), then Ill consider it.

chulooz · 06-19-2012, 01:04 PM

The turbo seems like just a matter of time for Subaru.... The AWD would be a whole other feat, but dont be naive an say its impossible; moving the engine forward *gasp* or creating new consumer drivetrain designs is not beyond the companies ability.

Hanzo · 06-19-2012, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sysfailur

The engine has already been turbo charged by aftermarket. And turbo AND supercharged on the same car. If they have room to do that, I'm sure Subaru and Toyota can figure it out too. They only have a few billion dollars more resources than those aftermarket companies.

But the problem is since they have already gone the bottom turbo route it would not be cost effect to build another turbo setup just for 1 model of the whole Subaru line. It's business, at the end of the day it's all about the bottom line.

YoshiMike13 · 06-19-2012, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chulooz

The turbo seems like just a matter of time for Subaru.... The AWD would be a whole other feat, but dont be naive an say its impossible; moving the engine forward *gasp* or creating new consumer drivetrain designs is not beyond the companies ability.

That, Is very true!

brzninja · 06-19-2012, 01:13 PM

You know, if this is true (which I'm pretty sure its not) the same thing happened to the Nissan Z.

240Z - 2,355 lbs
370Z - 3,232 lbs

Glad I'm getting mine now before they *might* mess up the formula.

I have faith is Subaru though, they can't mess this up.

ngabdala · 06-19-2012, 01:19 PM

I don't feel stupid. I am wondering why you're projecting "stupid" on me.

The most I could say about this post now that I'm not groggy anymore from waking up is it's old news.

Thanks for your opinion though. No hard feelings. It's a forum

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristecom

Hopefully the OP feels pretty stupid now. "For sure! Fuck yeah!" Why? Because some random internet blogger highly twisted the words of a Subaru employee.

ngabdala · 06-19-2012, 01:21 PM

I could care less about AWD and the added bulk. Honestly, all I want to see is at least 50lbs/ft torque stock.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX

OP: you do realize that the front axles in a AWD BRZ would have to pass THOUGH the engine block, right? The author of this article, despite whatever it says his credentials are, has no idea what he's talking about.

ngabdala · 06-19-2012, 01:23 PM

How many cars have been getting significantly lighter? America is crammed with overweight cars, heavy sportscars, and look at the STI weight increases and EVO

Quote:

Originally Posted by brzninja

You know, if this is true (which I'm pretty sure its not) the same thing happened to the Nissan Z.

240Z - 2,355 lbs
370Z - 3,232 lbs

Glad I'm getting mine now before they *might* mess up the formula.

I have faith is Subaru though, they can't mess this up.

wcbjr · 06-19-2012, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngabdala

I could care less about AWD and the added bulk. Honestly, all I want to see is at least 50lbs/ft torque stock.

How much less could you care?

And here...the car has already been made.

ichitaka05 · 06-19-2012, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngabdala

I could care less about AWD and the added bulk. Honestly, all I want to see is at least 50lbs/ft torque stock.

Then I would recommend doing FA25 or FA20 turbo (from new Legacy) swap.

YoshiMike13 · 06-19-2012, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wcbjr

How much less could you care?

And here...the car has already been made.

LOL the genesis.

serith · 06-19-2012, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoshiMike13

Oh LORD! SYRACUSE!! I am from upstate new york, born and raised there for 8 years, then vegas for six, back to upstate for two, and now in ct for 6 months. I can fully understand why you would want an AWD BRZ, I am from westerlo, which is about 35 minutes SSE from Albany

Yep

We had 180" of snow last year lol. I get around okay in my tC, but I cheat and throw on 4 steel wheels & snow tires on the car and keep them on from November through March.. It's certainly not AWD but it's okay. If Subaru doesn't release an AWD BRZ, I'll probably just get a 4door WRX.

ichitaka05 · 06-19-2012, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by serith

Yep

We had 180" of snow last year lol. I get around okay in my tC, but I cheat and throw on 4 steel wheels & snow tires on the car and keep them on from November through March.. It's certainly not AWD but it's okay. If Subaru doesn't release an AWD BRZ, I'll probably just get a 4door WRX.

180 inches of snow? Is that total of the yr?

brzninja · 06-19-2012, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngabdala

How many cars have been getting significantly lighter? America is crammed with overweight cars, heavy sportscars, and look at the STI weight increases and EVO

Agreed. While most of the weight comes from safety features I'm sure a lot can be cut down to BRZ-like weight.

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06-19-2012, 01:03 PM	#29
Tman08 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: DGM BRZ Limited Location: FL Posts: 192 Thanks: 53 Thanked 58 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Looks like the author Steve Davies just want people to visit his site with out of context quotes. Another site too that's doing it: http://www.am-online.com/news/2012/6...brz-sti/31142/ title says "Subaru confirms turbo BRZ STI", yet there's no quote confirming it. Now for an actual quote: "Plus, we want to keep turbocharging separate. It is for models like the WRX STI," Atake told Auto Express. "The same goes for four-wheel drive. We could not make the BRZ four-wheel drive even if we wanted to." So I take things with a very tiny grain of salt whenever I hear things like this. I am happy with the normal BRZ, but if an STI is out before I plan to get mine late Spring-Summer 13' (and like it), then Ill consider it.

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chulooz Registered you sir Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: 99 impreza coupe Location: DC / CT Posts: 1,666 Thanks: 259 Thanked 380 Times in 207 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The turbo seems like just a matter of time for Subaru.... The AWD would be a whole other feat, but dont be naive an say its impossible; moving the engine forward gasp or creating new consumer drivetrain designs is not beyond the companies ability.

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