Do these wheel's require 45 degree lug nuts? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

lupindub · 05-19-2016, 07:42 PM

So I just put on some Enkei RP03's using your standard 60 degree extended lug nuts and it doesn't seem to hold the torque for more then a day. I used a properly calibrated torque bar. I have to re-tighten them about 1/2 a turn every day. The threads are not stripped since as soon as I do the 1/2 turn, they are impossible to turn any farther. Only 1 or 2 lug nuts seem to coming loose per wheel. So do these Enkei require 45 degree lug nuts or 60 is fine?

http://enkei.com/shop/racing/rp03/

8R6 · 05-19-2016, 08:06 PM

does this happen to all 20 lug nuts? i cant imagine enkei making this one wheel requiring 45deg tapered seats......

lupindub · 05-19-2016, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 8R6

does this happen to all 20 lug nuts? i cant imagine enkei making this one wheel requiring 45deg tapered seats......

Like I mentioned in my original post in only happens to 1 or 2 nut per wheel.

This is my 3rd set of wheel and nothing like this has happened before.

Enkei advertises these wheel's as "Racing". I just checked out the Wikipedia page on lug nuts and here is what it said - "The lug's taper is normally 60 degrees (although 45 is common for wheels designed for racing applications)."

So could Enkei have designed there "Racing" series wheel's to accommodate only 45 degree nuts?

jawn · 05-19-2016, 08:48 PM

Are these brand new wheels? I had to re-tighten my NT03+M's a couple of times when I first got them, but they've been fine ever since.

lupindub · 05-19-2016, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jawn

Are these brand new wheels? I had to re-tighten my NT03+M's a couple of times when I first got them, but they've been fine ever since.

Nope not brand new. Bought them used but they are new for me (just put them on yesterday.)

I also noticed the hole where the lug nut goes on the wheel is WAY deeper then any wheel I have ever used. It almost looks like the wheel is sucking up the lug nut when you fully torque them down. These are extended lug nuts too.

8R6 · 05-19-2016, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lupindub

Like I mentioned in my original post in only happens to 1 or 2 nut per wheel.

oops. missed that part lol

just read your last post, do these wheels take the "tuner" style lugs? the really small skinny ones?

lupindub · 05-19-2016, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 8R6

oops. missed that part lol

just read your last post, do these wheels take the "tuner" style lugs? the really small skinny ones?

I'm using something similar to these:

8R6 · 05-20-2016, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by lupindub

I'm using something similar to these:

those look like the regular 19mm ones. But then I just realized if the wheels really did use the smaller diameter ones, these lugs won't even thread on to begin with anyway so nevermind lol

sqd · 05-20-2016, 02:20 AM

If they would require anything other than the standard type of aftermarket lug nut, it would be mentioned on either Enkeis own product page, or somewhere on the many retailers' websites, otherwise 95% of the people buying them would have the same issue. I'm sure you're supposed to use the 60-degree type nuts you are using.

stevesnj · 05-20-2016, 08:43 AM

Could be that the nuts are bottoming out. Try open end lug nuts

8R6 · 05-20-2016, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by stevesnj

Could be that the nuts are bottoming out. Try open end lug nuts

good point

lupindub · 05-20-2016, 03:19 PM

After re-torquing the wheel's for the fourth time, it seems to have stayed put for now. Guess the new nuts were just settling in with the wheel's? Not sure but I am happy the problem has resolved it self.

05-19-2016, 07:42 PM	#1
lupindub Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Drives: Scion FR-S Location: Michigan Posts: 285 Thanks: 228 Thanked 95 Times in 48 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Do these wheel's require 45 degree lug nuts? So I just put on some Enkei RP03's using your standard 60 degree extended lug nuts and it doesn't seem to hold the torque for more then a day. I used a properly calibrated torque bar. I have to re-tighten them about 1/2 a turn every day. The threads are not stripped since as soon as I do the 1/2 turn, they are impossible to turn any farther. Only 1 or 2 lug nuts seem to coming loose per wheel. So do these Enkei require 45 degree lug nuts or 60 is fine? http://enkei.com/shop/racing/rp03/

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8R6 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: FRS Location: SoCal Posts: 2,086 Thanks: 2,738 Thanked 1,339 Times in 746 Posts Mentioned: 30 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	does this happen to all 20 lug nuts? i cant imagine enkei making this one wheel requiring 45deg tapered seats...... __________________ Team BRG inspire-usa My car build #8R6

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sqd Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Drives: '13 SWP GT86 Location: Sweden Posts: 395 Thanks: 178 Thanked 377 Times in 166 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If they would require anything other than the standard type of aftermarket lug nut, it would be mentioned on either Enkeis own product page, or somewhere on the many retailers' websites, otherwise 95% of the people buying them would have the same issue. I'm sure you're supposed to use the 60-degree type nuts you are using. __________________ IG @squareddesign http://www.squareddesign.se

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