Would you guys trade Evo IX MR for BRZ?

[stockysnail]

Back in 2008 I traded in my Evo 9 RS in for a Lotus Elise. I really wish I would have kept my evo, not because I didn't love the Lotus but the Lotus got old after a while because of the lack of seat comfort. The Lotus is all about looks and handling, not comfort or practicality. The evo was faster than the Lotus too. After I was tired of paying a lot for the Lotus I went with a 04 R32, which is very practical, sounds amazing, but requires repairs a little more often than I'd like. I've driven all the cars everyone has mentioned (even the FR-S/BRZ) in this thread and the FR-S is the most balanced and nicest handling car of the bunch. The Cayman is just a teenie bit better but feels heavier even thought it's only heavier by a little, plus it cost twice as much. The Lotus was amazing too. I wish I could have a combo of the Lotus, BRZ/FR-S, and Evo all in one!

The answer to the question is no one should trade in their Evo 9 for a BRZ/FR-S unless you want something more civilized otherwise you will miss it too much like me. Keep it, pay it off, then have the FR-S/BRZ be your second car. If I could buy a new Evo 9 I would, but they don't exist anymore. That's why the BRZ Limited is what I'm going to get when my R32 finally sells, unless someone knows were I can get a new unmoded Evo 9. I say BRZ and not FR-S because the seats just didn't cut it for me. The BRZ seats are much nicer and since I'll be sitting in it when I drive, the seats are important!

If anyone knows where I can find a brand new Evo 9 RS to replace my mistake, let me know

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Originally Posted by stockysnail

If I could buy a new Evo 9 I would, but they don't exist anymore.

Yes they do. South Coast Mitsubishi in Costa Mesa, CA (about two miles from my office) has two brand new, untitled Evo IX MRs on their showroom floor that I have seen with my own eyes on numerous occasions.

Good write-up though, thanks for the perspective from a driver who has been behind the wheel of most of the cars in discussion, as I think everyone has made a few "armchair enthusiast" comments.

[stockysnail]

Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83

Yes they do. South Coast Mitsubishi in Costa Mesa, CA (about two miles from my office) has two brand new, untitled Evo IX MRs on their showroom floor that I have seen with my own eyes on numerous occasions.

Good write-up though, thanks for the perspective from a driver who has been behind the wheel of most of the cars in discussion, as I think everyone has made a few "armchair enthusiast" comments.

I actually said Evo 9 RS. I will look at what you said though about the MRs. When I bought my Evo 9 RS new 6 years ago it cost 29k and I traded it in stupidly for 19k almost 4 years ago because no one was buying it. If I would have kept it, it would have been payed off by now. ;( Silly decisions we make in our 20s.

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Originally Posted by stockysnail

I actually said Evo 9 RS. I will look at what you said though about the MRs. When I bought my Evo 9 RS new 6 years ago it cost 29k and I traded it in stupidly for 19k almost 4 years ago because no one was buying it. If I would have kept it, it would have been payed off by now. ;( Silly decisions we make in our 20s.

Well, you said IX RS at the END, haha. I know that they have a GG IX MR there still, and I think they had a WW one too.

I know what you mean, I ALMOST traded my IX SE in for a X GSR in 2008, but I'm glad that I didn't, especially after test driving one and really pushing it to realize what differences there are, even between two successive models of the same car.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83

Yes they do. South Coast Mitsubishi in Costa Mesa, CA (about two miles from my office) has two brand new, untitled Evo IX MRs on their showroom floor that I have seen with my own eyes on numerous occasions.

Good write-up though, thanks for the perspective from a driver who has been behind the wheel of most of the cars in discussion, as I think everyone has made a few "armchair enthusiast" comments.

yeah but dont they want like 36 for it or something? i havent been there since october

[DeeezNuuuts83]

I think they want more, actually.

[UncleFester]

Originally Posted by justaquestion

Honestly, the only time I see a BRZ/FR-S being a better car to own over the Evo/STI would be if you were building a dedicated track car... The twins don't even come close to the real life practicality those cars offer. The twins might go around turns quicker, but their overall performance index don't even come close to the Evo/Sti.

And another thing a lot of people don't realize, as far as normal roads are concerned... Yeah, you can go around a turn quicker in the BRZ/FR-S but you can't maintain your speed like you would on a track. The Evo/Sti would be more fun on the street for the simple fact that you can actually accelerate quickly out of turns when its safe too.

Sums it up. I wouldn't do it.

[Hanzo]

I'll throw one thing out there, BRZ/FRS is less expensive to maintain and Subaru/Scion dealership/service department is much much better than Mitsubishi.

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Originally Posted by Hanzo

I'll through one thing out there, BRZ/FRS is less expensive to maintain

I think that's a given when talking about a car with ~2/3 the hp, ~1/2 the torque, 1/2 the driving wheels and 1/3 the differentials.

[MTTS3sgte]

Originally Posted by Mtechnik

I couldn't agree more. I have owned very fast street cars as well, and to be honest, I've had as much or more fun in the 'slower' cars with less ponies.

Even after owning a slightly upgraded Noble M400 with 450whp/450tq that only weighed in at 2350lbs. Cars like our SC'd Mini Cooper S are an absolute blast to drive around on the street! Like another poster mentioned, it's tons of fun to run through the gears in a lower hp car on the street, you feel like you're hauling some serious ass!! Lol. In the Noble, 1st & 2nd gear, shift to 3rd and BOOM wayyy over the speed limit at arrest me speeds. Not saying that it isn't fun as well, but we've had as much/more fun (not having to be concerned about safety or law enforcement as much) with the MINI, 99' 10AE Miata, and even the 'slower' S52 M Coupe Incredibly well balanced dynamic fun to drive cars.

Would I trade an Evo IX for a BRZ? Hmm, that's a tough one. I would simply ask you two things: 1. Do you have a need for 4 doors? 2. Since you already drove the BRZ, how do YOU like it? If YOU like it & it's more fun to you, get it. It's an amazing car and who cares what anyone else thinks!

Happy Motoring!

Got to say that I wouldn't have given up the noble m400 but that's just me.

[Mtechnik]

Originally Posted by MTTS3sgte

Got to say that I wouldn't have given up the noble m400 but that's just me.

Yeah, I can see that. Although, the Noble is one of those cars that I am very glad that I had the experience to own, but if someone asked if I would do so again, the answer would be No. My next 'super drivers street car' is a 997.2 GT3 or Cayman R. Although, my focus currently is on competitive road racing and not street cars... Now THAT is a helluva lot more fun than driving a Noble/Aventador/(place any super car name here) on the street. You truly can't do much on the street, and if you start to really push the limits, that can get dangerous really fast (no pun intended) due to the unpredicatable nature of the environment around you. In addition, you can't drive/race mirror to mirror, door to door with a Noble or whatever on the street, that's one of the many things that makes auto road racing so satisfying & competitive.
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OT, BRZ vs. Evo. Yeah, I'd prob do it for something new and a change.

[Hanakuso]

Totally different cars. IMO Evos are made to go fast while the BRZ are made to be fun

[ravnos04]

hehe, nope! /thread

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by DOMOAE92

Yeah it makes sense. You have a point in that the EVO/STI starts at such High HP/High Grip platform. And that in order to get the most "fun" out of it, you have to drive it like you stole everywhere, because of the FI (Forced Induction).

Yet, compared to a balanced car like the BRZ/FRS, you feel or actually wear the car when you drive it. You don't necessarily have to be driving fast, just the enjoyment of how well balanced the car is brings the fun back in driving. Basically, the limits in terms of driving is easier to achieve when you're in the BRZ/FRS, and brings a sense of happiness. It's basically driving a big ass go-kart.

So if you enjoy driving, the BRZ/FRS is the car for you. It's simple and pure to a perfect balance. I think the challenge will be "not" to over tune the engine of these cars, and still keeping the balance undistrubed.

Bingo!! at what power level will this car became more of a normal car as far as its rare to achieve driving dynamics are thrown out of the window. See 99.9% of cars dont have this luxury to begin with so more speed is usually the avenue when its comes to modding these cars. The Evo is the best in driving dynamics of the awd type but its still not like a Ft86/FSR/BRZ ,Miata,Rx7,Rx8,Mr2,944,914,S2000,Caymen,Boxter,240 z,240sx or
Elise nor will it ever be no matter what you do to it.This is where people with cars outside of these listed need to understand to get this special ride you may have to make some power and size/scale sacrifices to get this magic!