Trade in FRS to purchase Mustang EcoBoost or Camaro 2.0 Turbo - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Parappa · 05-05-2016, 08:46 PM

Just purchased an open flash tablet and DAMD leather seat covers and started to shop for headers etc.... I love my FRS/86 but I started to think maybe its time to purchase a different car?

Never owned an american car in my life so I thought it may be fun. Curious to hear some opinions. The new camaro has a really nice interior and really nice dash etc...

Not trying to start a debate on which type of car is better. Just entertaining the idea.

Seems like the Mustang and Camaro come with so many more options and feel a bit more solid.

RichardsFRS · 05-05-2016, 08:53 PM

Just keep it if you are considering a pony car with a four banger. I'd never purchase one without a V8

Teseo · 05-05-2016, 09:02 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80015
If you dont read it. I considere the camaro more all-around car imo, but mustang body is more appeal to me.

Impureclient · 05-05-2016, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardsFRS

I'd never purchase one without a V8

This made me rethink that belief: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80015

Tcoat · 05-05-2016, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parappa

Just purchased an open flash tablet and DAMD leather seat covers and started to shop for headers etc.... I love my FRS/86 but I started to think maybe its time to purchase a different car?

Never owned an american car in my life so I thought it may be fun. Curious to hear some opinions. The new camaro has a really nice interior and really nice dash etc...

Not trying to start a debate on which type of car is better. Just entertaining the idea.

Seems like the Mustang and Camaro come with so many more options and feel a bit more solid.

Is yours paid for? If not then beware the slippery slope of trading in too soon. If there is a reason you want /need to change then all is cool but changing out of boredom can get costly.
If I was trading for one or the other right now I would go Mustang (and I hate mustangs) since it has a slight edge on the Camaro in my opinion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardsFRS

Just keep it if you are considering a pony car with a four banger. I'd never purchase one without a V8

1969 called and want their ideas on engines back.

Cole · 05-05-2016, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardsFRS

Just keep it if you are considering a pony car with a four banger. I'd never purchase one without a V8

Lol no one cares and your anecdotal evidence of engine size correlating to... Other thing's sizes is getting old. Get with the times, dinosaur.

Either should be a good choice, but only have experience with the mustang. That is on my short list for when the time comes to move on from the frs.

DarkSunrise · 05-05-2016, 09:30 PM

The reason I'd go with the Camaro is the LT1 in the SS. Having sat in one at the auto show, that engine is about the only thing that could get me to put up with the poor visibility of the chassis/seating position. It is like looking out from the inside of a bunker.

But if you already know you're going with the 4 cyl turbo models, then I'd go with the Ecoboost Mustang instead. Better visibility, stronger engine and better looking car IMO. Drive both and see what you think.

JimR · 05-05-2016, 10:32 PM

If you are a teenage girl and have several kids to drive around, definitely get your mom to lease you a Camaro. The newest model was the star of the Gobots movie. The only drawback is that they are only made with yellow with black stripes. All of the Beckys at my school have one.

Astral Abyss · 05-05-2016, 10:34 PM

I came from a 2014 Mustang with the 5.0, Track Pack, and Recaro's. Build quality was atrocious. That car was fun as hell to drive, but hard to control, and it was in the shop more that any of my other cars combined. It also attracted every idiot in the city to try and race me, especially the losers in their Dodge Rams and F150s who wanted to show me up. It got old pretty quick. And once you realize those cars handle like a pig at normal city speeds, you'll wish you had your FRS back.

My advice, if you really want a turbo, start looking around for good local shops, buy yourself a turbo or supercharger and get them to install it and tune your engine. You'll save a ton of money in the long run and you'll have a sleeper car that you can embarrass people if you wish, or just drive quietly and stay under the radar.

humfrz · 05-05-2016, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parappa

........
Not trying to start a debate on which type of car is better. Just entertaining the idea.

Oh, I don't believe that one is "better" than the other.

I'd suggest you sit in both, then pick the one that "feels better" to you.

Then choose an engine that suits your driving needs/desires.

Then select a transmission of your choice.

Next, pick a pretty color.

Add some extras if desired.

See, how simple that was.........

humfrz

Aztec · 05-05-2016, 10:55 PM

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ToySub1946 · 05-05-2016, 11:04 PM

Wildfires in Alberta have already raised the price of crude oil. Americans are buying big trucks...big SUVs...stupid as the price of oil is not gonna stay low for too long.

New model change for Mustang in 2015 has again made a not so reliable car, as it took Ford years to perfect the last model...ten years for that model.

I own a 2005 Ford Mustang GT and a 2015 FRS. Wanna get rid of the Mustang, as it's like driving a ship or bus compared to the FRS. Love the around town gas mileage of the FRS compared to lousy mileage around town in the Mustang. Even the Mustang Shelby GTR surely can't handle corners like what we now own. Oh, sure, great on a track (more speed in the Mustang), but FRS/BRZ way better for cornering on the average drive where we spend most of our time.

The Camaro is still hard to see out of despite new model changes to the body.

Once owning a small sports car, no reason to ever go back to a bigger car. I'd suggest thinking about another small car IF you need a change from FRS/BRZ, unless you need to carry more humans than two in a car.

Mustang and Camaro will see you in the Dealership for warranty repairs, fights with service writers over those repairs. Made in Japan cars as FRS/BRZ require virtually no time in a place you don't want to be.

If you did not live in rain country I'd suggest a MX5 Miata. There are also other new and used choices for small fun cars...yet more money to spend on them. How much you wanna spend ?

Sometimes it's best to just have two cars, each totally different from the other. Even a junker, beater is worth the fun (change of pace) of having two cars. And with a beater, no need to have collision insurance. I may replace my Mustang with a beater, a sensible choice.

pantdino · 05-05-2016, 11:36 PM

You are comparing apples and oranges. I have rented Mustangs and have an E36 M3. The non-V8 Mustang was totally without character and boring as hell after the first few miles. Even the M3 drives like a limousine compared to the FRS.

Mr Nerd · 05-06-2016, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardsFRS

Just keep it if you are considering a pony car with a four banger. I'd never purchase one without a V8

This post is all that you need to read.

/endthread

05-05-2016, 08:53 PM	#2
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05-05-2016, 09:30 PM	#7
DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S) Location: USA Posts: 5,795 Thanks: 2,171 Thanked 4,242 Times in 2,220 Posts Mentioned: 48 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	The reason I'd go with the Camaro is the LT1 in the SS. Having sat in one at the auto show, that engine is about the only thing that could get me to put up with the poor visibility of the chassis/seating position. It is like looking out from the inside of a bunker. But if you already know you're going with the 4 cyl turbo models, then I'd go with the Ecoboost Mustang instead. Better visibility, stronger engine and better looking car IMO. Drive both and see what you think. __________________ "Never run out of real estate, traction, and ideas at the same time." 2022 BRZ Build 2013 FR-S Build

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05-05-2016, 11:04 PM	#12
ToySub1946 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Drives: 15FRS, 05MustangGT, 85Toyota truck Location: Eureka, Ca. Posts: 574 Thanks: 672 Thanked 590 Times in 279 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Wildfires in Alberta have already raised the price of crude oil. Americans are buying big trucks...big SUVs...stupid as the price of oil is not gonna stay low for too long. New model change for Mustang in 2015 has again made a not so reliable car, as it took Ford years to perfect the last model...ten years for that model. I own a 2005 Ford Mustang GT and a 2015 FRS. Wanna get rid of the Mustang, as it's like driving a ship or bus compared to the FRS. Love the around town gas mileage of the FRS compared to lousy mileage around town in the Mustang. Even the Mustang Shelby GTR surely can't handle corners like what we now own. Oh, sure, great on a track (more speed in the Mustang), but FRS/BRZ way better for cornering on the average drive where we spend most of our time. The Camaro is still hard to see out of despite new model changes to the body. Once owning a small sports car, no reason to ever go back to a bigger car. I'd suggest thinking about another small car IF you need a change from FRS/BRZ, unless you need to carry more humans than two in a car. Mustang and Camaro will see you in the Dealership for warranty repairs, fights with service writers over those repairs. Made in Japan cars as FRS/BRZ require virtually no time in a place you don't want to be. If you did not live in rain country I'd suggest a MX5 Miata. There are also other new and used choices for small fun cars...yet more money to spend on them. How much you wanna spend ? Sometimes it's best to just have two cars, each totally different from the other. Even a junker, beater is worth the fun (change of pace) of having two cars. And with a beater, no need to have collision insurance. I may replace my Mustang with a beater, a sensible choice. Last edited by ToySub1946; 05-05-2016 at 11:25 PM.

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JimR Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Drives: '15 FR-S, '92 Sentra SE-R Location: Ozarks Posts: 69 Thanks: 5 Thanked 131 Times in 43 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	If you are a teenage girl and have several kids to drive around, definitely get your mom to lease you a Camaro. The newest model was the star of the Gobots movie. The only drawback is that they are only made with yellow with black stripes. All of the Beckys at my school have one.

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Astral Abyss Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Drives: 2016 Halo FR-S Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 66 Thanks: 19 Thanked 43 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I came from a 2014 Mustang with the 5.0, Track Pack, and Recaro's. Build quality was atrocious. That car was fun as hell to drive, but hard to control, and it was in the shop more that any of my other cars combined. It also attracted every idiot in the city to try and race me, especially the losers in their Dodge Rams and F150s who wanted to show me up. It got old pretty quick. And once you realize those cars handle like a pig at normal city speeds, you'll wish you had your FRS back. My advice, if you really want a turbo, start looking around for good local shops, buy yourself a turbo or supercharger and get them to install it and tune your engine. You'll save a ton of money in the long run and you'll have a sleeper car that you can embarrass people if you wish, or just drive quietly and stay under the radar.

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