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_Se7en_ · 05-03-2016, 04:15 PM

From what I understand (the Internet can correct me if I'm way off base) due to almost zero camber up front left (driver side) when making hard left turns you will get a slight positive camber. Continuously doing hard turns like during our drives can cause excessive tire wear on the outside.

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Clipdat · 05-03-2016, 04:21 PM

Cool, thanks for the insight. I wonder if I should even bother rotating them at this point. They also appear to be starting to dry rot/crack. They were installed in October of 2013.

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Originally Posted by _Se7en_

From what I understand (the Internet can correct me if I'm way off base) due to almost zero camber up front left (driver side) when making hard left turns you will get a slight positive camber. Continuously doing hard turns like during our drives can cause excessive tire wear on the outside.

_Se7en_ · 05-03-2016, 04:24 PM

Eh. You have some negative camber in the back. More than likely your rears aren't as back as your front (least went talking about the outside edge)

I'd rotate them if money is an issue. Should wear em out bit more even after another 10k of same driving habits. Otherwise I'd go for another set.

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Clipdat · 05-03-2016, 04:27 PM

Yeah, the outer edge of the rears look fine/normal. I will have them rotated and try to get another 10k out of them.

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Originally Posted by _Se7en_

Eh. You have some negative camber in the back. More than likely your rears aren't as back as your front (least went talking about the outside edge)

I'd rotate them if money is an issue. Should wear em out bit more even after another 10k of same driving habits. Otherwise I'd go for another set.

BigFatFlip · 05-03-2016, 05:03 PM

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Anyone have any idea why the outer edge of my driver's side front tire is so worn down compared to the outer edge on my passenger side front?

BECAUSE NASCAR!

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Yeah, the outer edge of the rears look fine/normal. I will have them rotated and try to get another 10k out of them.

But seriously though, I agree with @_Se7en_ just rotate them if you want to eek out a few more thousand miles out of em. I personally like the "rearward cross" method of rotation to kinda even out the outer shoulder wear. What tires are you on? I just replaced my my RE11As recently. I think we got our tires around the same time and we probably do about the same amount of driving (back roads and short work commute).

Clipdat · 05-03-2016, 05:05 PM

I asked Neal about the cross rotation pattern and he recommended just a simple front to back swap instead. Shrug.

Yeah I saw you put on MPSS thanks to the oil cooler pics. I'm on Toyo T1 Sport. They apparently have a 20k treadwear warranty which I'm sure I've already violated by not rotating every 5k.

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BECAUSE NASCAR!

But seriously though, I agree with @_Se7en_ just rotate them if you want to eek out a few more thousand miles out of em. I personally like the "rearward cross" method of rotation to kinda even out the outer shoulder wear. What tires are you on? I just replaced my my RE11As recently. I think we got our tires around the same time and we probably do about the same amount of driving (back roads and short work commute).

Clipdat · 05-03-2016, 06:34 PM

Look at this ridiculous plate I just saw in my work lot. I take offense to this, because the only way this would be appropriate is if this was a 1M, and it's not.

finch1750 · 05-03-2016, 06:39 PM

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Look at this ridiculous plate I just saw in my work lot. I take offense to this, because the only way this would be appropriate is if this was a 1M, and it's not.

maybe it's a legit request for actualy M power that they couldn't afford?

finch1750 · 05-03-2016, 06:41 PM

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These are my alignment specs when I got the tires/springs/wheels put on 10k miles ago.

Dude. you really need more camber in front. get some SPC bolts and max them out. Itll help I think plus you should understeer less.

Clipdat · 05-03-2016, 06:43 PM

No can do, bro. My wheels are 17x9 +45 so I had to use a 3mm spacer to get them to fit and not rub the spring perch in front. Putting negative camber would push the tire right right into the spring perch. This is why I really want coilovers.

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Dude. you really need more camber in front. get some SPC bolts and max them out. Itll help I think plus you should understeer less.

finch1750 · 05-03-2016, 06:44 PM

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No can do, bro. My wheels are 17x9 +45 so I had to use a 3mm spacer to get them to fit and not rub the spring perch in front. Putting negative camber would push the tire right right into the spring perch. This is why I really want coilovers.

Hmm, I thought you were on coils. time for some or bigger spaces and ARP extended studs

Clipdat · 05-03-2016, 06:49 PM

Bigger spacers? I am already approaching mexipoke status in front.

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Hmm, I thought you were on coils. me for some or bigger spaces and ARP extended studs

finch1750 · 05-03-2016, 07:20 PM

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Bigger spacers? I am already approaching mexipoke status in front.

lol. wasnt sure how bad the +45 made it. I guess even my +42 is pretty flush but the camber and mudguards help haha

finch1750 · 05-03-2016, 08:49 PM

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_Se7en_ Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: Whiteout Scion FR-S Location: Mountain View, CA Posts: 133 Thanks: 105 Thanked 64 Times in 37 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s)	From what I understand (the Internet can correct me if I'm way off base) due to almost zero camber up front left (driver side) when making hard left turns you will get a slight positive camber. Continuously doing hard turns like during our drives can cause excessive tire wear on the outside. Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk

05-03-2016, 04:24 PM	#7059
_Se7en_ Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: Whiteout Scion FR-S Location: Mountain View, CA Posts: 133 Thanks: 105 Thanked 64 Times in 37 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s)	Eh. You have some negative camber in the back. More than likely your rears aren't as back as your front (least went talking about the outside edge) I'd rotate them if money is an issue. Should wear em out bit more even after another 10k of same driving habits. Otherwise I'd go for another set. Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk

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