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Old 06-14-2012, 05:43 PM   #15
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Actually....because HID bulbs give off about 2-3 times the amount of light as a halogen bulb, it's very import to have your lights adjusted properly as to not blind other drivers and having a leveling device is essential for this. With a couple people in the back of the car/full tank of gas/cargo in the trunk (or any combination of these) the beam patter will raise up quite a bit and you will need the ability to adjust your headlights on the fly instead of having to pop the hood every time you need to make an adjustment.

Some cars have auto-levelers for their HID headlights which gets rid of the manual adjuster wheel but this also increases the cost of the lights as well.
I guess I just don't haul enough stuff around in the back of my cars to make that an issue, but you make a good point.
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Old 06-14-2012, 05:55 PM   #16
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Headlights get adjusted manually even on cars that have auto-leveling. You need to be able to set where "base" level is before it starts to adjust it.

I'm sure the BRZ is probably the same.

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I was going to mention the same thing. Can you adjust the headlight alignment screws on the actual housing first then dial in the headlight aim on the dash.
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Old 06-14-2012, 05:57 PM   #17
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Definitely adjust the headlight level. I picked mine up last night and drove 100 miles home. 75 of which were in complete darkness through PA and NJ. The level helps big time. I actually had mine on 1 or 2 most of the way.
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:46 AM   #18
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I adjusted the settings as suggested with the "wheel". All is fine now. I can actually see where I am going.
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Actually....because HID bulbs give off about 2-3 times the amount of light as a halogen bulb, it's very import to have your lights adjusted properly as to not blind other drivers and having a leveling device is essential for this. With a couple people in the back of the car/full tank of gas/cargo in the trunk (or any combination of these) the beam patter will raise up quite a bit and you will need the ability to adjust your headlights on the fly instead of having to pop the hood every time you need to make an adjustment.

Some cars have auto-levelers for their HID headlights which gets rid of the manual adjuster wheel but this also increases the cost of the lights as well.
This is great in theory but every ***git has their HIDs aimed up or shitty HID in halogen housing blinding everyone anyway.

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Old 06-17-2012, 02:00 AM   #21
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This is great in theory but every ***git has their HIDs aimed up or shitty HID in halogen housing blinding everyone anyway.

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Your frustrations, while they are valid, should really be aimed at those who run cheap HID kits and not just every car on the road with HID headlights. The cheap HID kits people use in halogen headlights give off so much glare that no amount of aiming will keep them from blinding other drivers. Cars that are equipped with HID headlight from the factory won't blind you on the road unless the driver has either manually adjusted them too high or not lowered them down with the adjustment knob with cargo/passengers in the back of the car.
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:26 AM   #22
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^^ +1

Don't blame the HID lamps for something that is really the fault of the driver/owner.

More light output is always better, but people who have poorly aimed headlamps or use poorly designed aftermarket kits are the true problem. More light on the road itself had saved my ass more than once. Especially here in New England where hitting a deer is something to be feared. I have upgraded halogens in my truck and there have been several instances where I have avoided deer because I saw them early enough to slow down. If I was running my stock headlamps I may not have seen them in time, and more than once I have seen deer on the side of the road only to slow down and have one dart in front of me. If I hadn't slowed down I surely would have hit them and I wouldn't have slowed down if I didn't have the extra light from extra bright lamps. That being said, I am not running HID's in Halogen housings and my halogens are aimed properly as to not blind other drivers.

Also, one of the other biggest things is DON'T RUN YOUR FOG LAMPS UNLESS IT'S FOGGY!!!!! Fog lamps are not aimed and easily blind oncoming drivers, they are basically like driving with your low beams and high beams on at the same time. There is a reason driving with your fog lamps on when it's not foggy is illegal in Australia and most European countries.
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Your frustrations, while they are valid, should really be aimed at those who run cheap HID kits and not just every car on the road with HID headlights. The cheap HID kits people use in halogen headlights give off so much glare that no amount of aiming will keep them from blinding other drivers. Cars that are equipped with HID headlight from the factory won't blind you on the road unless the driver has either manually adjusted them too high or not lowered them down with the adjustment knob with cargo/passengers in the back of the car.
Pretty sure he was just pointing out the futility of the situation.

We already have:

One vendor marketing RHD HID's to kids because of "JDM yo". AND telling them there is no issue with the lighting angle for the US.

Several HID kits, which judging by the pictures posted have very poor cutoff and are blinding people driving toward them.

Being someone with poor night vision, it really pisses me off when I see that stuff.
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Old 06-17-2012, 08:30 AM   #24
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Also, one of the other biggest things is DON'T RUN YOUR FOG LAMPS UNLESS IT'S FOGGY!!!!! Fog lamps are not aimed and easily blind oncoming drivers, they are basically like driving with your low beams and high beams on at the same time. There is a reason driving with your fog lamps on when it's not foggy is illegal in Australia and most European countries.
Again, this is an owner's fault, not the fault of the lights. FOG lights are supposed to be aimed at the GROUND about 25ft in front of the car. They are supposed to reflect off of the wet pavement to illuminate signs ahead of the car without reflecting back off of the fog ahead. Properly aimed fog lights are not blinding to oncoming cars because they just aren't aimed high enough.

Now DRIVING lights are a different matter. Those are supposed to supplement highbeams, not low beams and should only be on when the brights are on. As such, they are aimed higher and can blind oncoming traffic.
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Pretty sure he was just pointing out the futility of the situation.

We already have:

One vendor marketing RHD HID's to kids because of "JDM yo". AND telling them there is no issue with the lighting angle for the US.

Several HID kits, which judging by the pictures posted have very poor cutoff and are blinding people driving toward them.

Being someone with poor night vision, it really pisses me off when I see that stuff.
It's really unfortunate that the community here is already being flooded with crappy HID products and misleading information. I hope people will take the time to get educated about HID tech before wasting money on a cheap kit and blinding other drivers on the road.
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^^ +1

Don't blame the HID lamps for something that is really the fault of the driver/owner.

More light output is always better, but people who have poorly aimed headlamps or use poorly designed aftermarket kits are the true problem. More light on the road itself had saved my ass more than once. Especially here in New England where hitting a deer is something to be feared. I have upgraded halogens in my truck and there have been several instances where I have avoided deer because I saw them early enough to slow down. If I was running my stock headlamps I may not have seen them in time, and more than once I have seen deer on the side of the road only to slow down and have one dart in front of me. If I hadn't slowed down I surely would have hit them and I wouldn't have slowed down if I didn't have the extra light from extra bright lamps. That being said, I am not running HID's in Halogen housings and my halogens are aimed properly as to not blind other drivers.

Also, one of the other biggest things is DON'T RUN YOUR FOG LAMPS UNLESS IT'S FOGGY!!!!! Fog lamps are not aimed and easily blind oncoming drivers, they are basically like driving with your low beams and high beams on at the same time. There is a reason driving with your fog lamps on when it's not foggy is illegal in Australia and most European countries.


another good reason why i will be getting a BRZ instead of the other...
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I will be doing manual adjustment of mine. They are still too low even at the 0 setting.
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Probably one of the funniest totally out of date threads ever to be resurrected for no apparent reason.
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