Same price Automatic and Manual - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

TMXSTAR · 04-18-2016, 04:26 AM

Hi! Good day!

Since I finally decided to get a Red Manual BRZ, the manager told me I can get the Automatic for the same price as the Manual one.

Hmmmm, I liked the Manual, but should I take advantage to take the Automatic for the price of a Manual 2016 BRZ Limited?

I never driven a Automatic with paddle shifters before, and I cant test drive a Automatic BRZ since they don't have one and this will be ordered straight from Japan.

Please respect my post, I need your opinions of the Automatic version since I never driven one before.

I'm very sorry for my Bad English, I'm in a rush now.

Thanks advance
and
God Bless!!!!!

G00N28 · 04-18-2016, 05:09 AM

First choice is usually the right choice.

Mim · 04-18-2016, 05:54 AM

Been driving the AT now for 1.5 years and love it. Note the auto has longer gearing so has better fuel economy but is slower than the manual by about .5 of a second 0-60mph.

I fixed the gearing via a different final drive ratio upgrade so no biggie.

The paddles are pretty cool, I use them all the time while in sports mode. The computer will lock you out of down or upshifting if it thinks its a bad idea for the engine and will down shift if your RPM's drop too low.

If you double tap fast enough it will down (or up) shift two gears. I use gear breaking in sports mode all the time so unless I need to come to a stop I just down shift for traffic that slows ahead of me.

If you floor it in sports mode it will wind all the way out to redline, you will see the shift light come on and it will change up smoothly into second. Quite addictive on a stock car, more so when moded.

Leaving the car in regular drive will make you a very sad panda. Needless to say sports mode will adversely effect your fuel economy, but then petrol is cheap!

Tcoat · 04-18-2016, 09:16 AM

Keep in mind that the AT in these is not your "normal" off the shelf auto. They are specifically designed to work very well with the engine. There are not many guys that have them that have any complaints. Those that do want to switch to MT frequently show all the signs of giving into "these cars should be MT bro" peer pressure.

There must be one for sale someplace that you can take for a test drive. I would not just change my mind without driving both or you will always be second guessing you choice.

extrashaky · 04-18-2016, 09:22 AM

Get the manual. This car wants it to give you the full experience. The paddles are not a substitute for the real thing, regardless of what the marketing says.

The reason they're now discounting the auto is that they are less desirable in this car than usual. Day old bread. Scratch and dent. Homes in Flint, MI. Discounts happen for a reason.

S84kam · 04-18-2016, 10:22 AM

Get the manual because you won't regret it.

there are many people here who want to switch from auto to manual. But never the way around

Kenny_LongWrench · 04-18-2016, 11:25 AM

Definitely drive both before you make a decision. I test drove an AT before I got my MT, and I honestly was impressed with the AT. I was expecting something similar to my XJ's transmission, but it was quite responsive and smooth, For me, I wanted a manual, because of preference, but I am glad I drove both.

Mim · 04-18-2016, 11:31 AM

A new car is never a trivial purchase, even if the auto makes sense financially that alone is not a reason to get it. You really need to test drive both and also consider the reality of where and when you will spend the bulk of your driving over the coming years.

Summerwolf · 04-18-2016, 11:50 AM

No manual, No want.

That sounds like a horrible deal by even having a salesman mention automatic.... ugh.

covance · 04-18-2016, 04:36 PM

Manual more fun

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carczar87 · 04-18-2016, 04:51 PM

There are obviously a lot of people who drive these cars who really enjoy driving a manual, but you really can't let that influence you. I test drove both versions of the car myself and was quite impressed by the responsiveness and smoothness of the auto.

I concur with what @Tcoat said, you really need to drive both versions before you can know for sure how you'd feel about the auto.

I wouldn't let the fact that he's giving you a "deal" on the auto influence the decision. Buy the transmission you prefer, it's what you'll be driving around with.

tommewin · 04-18-2016, 04:51 PM

There's a reason that they're willing to see the auto at a manual price, lack of demand. Re-sale value is going to be less down the road as well.

Side · 04-18-2016, 08:33 PM

I chose the automatic based on my current needs, and have no regrets.

You will want to evaluate your needs and test drive both if possible.

If test driving the automatic is not an available option, go with the manual because you have already driven it and confirmed you enjoyed it.

g e · 04-18-2016, 08:39 PM

It depends what floats your boat. I love working the gears and would be bored to tears with an automatic. Others feel differently. You know you best. I hope.

04-18-2016, 04:26 AM	#1
TMXSTAR I'm bad at English Join Date: Mar 2016 Drives: Subaru BRZ 2016 M/T Location: Canyon Posts: 42 Thanks: 48 Thanked 15 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Same price Automatic and Manual Hi! Good day! Since I finally decided to get a Red Manual BRZ, the manager told me I can get the Automatic for the same price as the Manual one. Hmmmm, I liked the Manual, but should I take advantage to take the Automatic for the price of a Manual 2016 BRZ Limited? I never driven a Automatic with paddle shifters before, and I cant test drive a Automatic BRZ since they don't have one and this will be ordered straight from Japan. Please respect my post, I need your opinions of the Automatic version since I never driven one before. I'm very sorry for my Bad English, I'm in a rush now. Thanks advance and God Bless!!!!!

04-18-2016, 05:54 AM	#3
Mim Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: MY11 Maxima 350st, MY15 BRZ Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 534 Thanks: 304 Thanked 342 Times in 185 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Been driving the AT now for 1.5 years and love it. Note the auto has longer gearing so has better fuel economy but is slower than the manual by about .5 of a second 0-60mph. I fixed the gearing via a different final drive ratio upgrade so no biggie. The paddles are pretty cool, I use them all the time while in sports mode. The computer will lock you out of down or upshifting if it thinks its a bad idea for the engine and will down shift if your RPM's drop too low. If you double tap fast enough it will down (or up) shift two gears. I use gear breaking in sports mode all the time so unless I need to come to a stop I just down shift for traffic that slows ahead of me. If you floor it in sports mode it will wind all the way out to redline, you will see the shift light come on and it will change up smoothly into second. Quite addictive on a stock car, more so when moded. Leaving the car in regular drive will make you a very sad panda. Needless to say sports mode will adversely effect your fuel economy, but then petrol is cheap! __________________ MY15 CWP A/T BRZ \| Leather heated seats \| STI CAI filter, A/T leather shifter, strut brace, V-brace, draw stiffener, battery tie down, Radiator cap, Oil cap, push start button \| TRD door stabilizer \| YoSpeed STI console garnish \| Pioneer AVIC-F70DAB + Rev-camera, TS-WX710A sub \| JL speakers, Amp \| TOMS' Clear Brake Lights \| Cusco 4.556 FD \| Driveshaft Shop aluminum shaft \| Tein FlexZ, EDFC AP+GPS \| Crawford BPB

04-18-2016, 09:16 AM	#4
Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,841 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,294 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2499 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	Keep in mind that the AT in these is not your "normal" off the shelf auto. They are specifically designed to work very well with the engine. There are not many guys that have them that have any complaints. Those that do want to switch to MT frequently show all the signs of giving into "these cars should be MT bro" peer pressure. There must be one for sale someplace that you can take for a test drive. I would not just change my mind without driving both or you will always be second guessing you choice. __________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.

04-18-2016, 11:31 AM	#8
Mim Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: MY11 Maxima 350st, MY15 BRZ Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 534 Thanks: 304 Thanked 342 Times in 185 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	A new car is never a trivial purchase, even if the auto makes sense financially that alone is not a reason to get it. You really need to test drive both and also consider the reality of where and when you will spend the bulk of your driving over the coming years. __________________ MY15 CWP A/T BRZ \| Leather heated seats \| STI CAI filter, A/T leather shifter, strut brace, V-brace, draw stiffener, battery tie down, Radiator cap, Oil cap, push start button \| TRD door stabilizer \| YoSpeed STI console garnish \| Pioneer AVIC-F70DAB + Rev-camera, TS-WX710A sub \| JL speakers, Amp \| TOMS' Clear Brake Lights \| Cusco 4.556 FD \| Driveshaft Shop aluminum shaft \| Tein FlexZ, EDFC AP+GPS \| Crawford BPB

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04-18-2016, 05:09 AM	#2
G00N28 Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: CBS BRZ Location: Socal Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	First choice is usually the right choice.

04-18-2016, 09:22 AM	#5
extrashaky Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: 2014 BRZ Limited Location: USA Posts: 4,045 Thanks: 1,100 Thanked 5,618 Times in 2,266 Posts Mentioned: 55 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Get the manual. This car wants it to give you the full experience. The paddles are not a substitute for the real thing, regardless of what the marketing says. The reason they're now discounting the auto is that they are less desirable in this car than usual. Day old bread. Scratch and dent. Homes in Flint, MI. Discounts happen for a reason.

04-18-2016, 10:22 AM	#6
S84kam Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Drives: FBRZS Location: Kingston Posts: 268 Thanks: 254 Thanked 150 Times in 83 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Get the manual because you won't regret it. there are many people here who want to switch from auto to manual. But never the way around

04-18-2016, 11:25 AM	#7
Kenny_LongWrench Tacticool_BRZ Join Date: Nov 2015 Drives: ZC6 - AW11 Location: Kentucky Posts: 101 Thanks: 117 Thanked 48 Times in 34 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Definitely drive both before you make a decision. I test drove an AT before I got my MT, and I honestly was impressed with the AT. I was expecting something similar to my XJ's transmission, but it was quite responsive and smooth, For me, I wanted a manual, because of preference, but I am glad I drove both.

04-18-2016, 11:50 AM	#9
Summerwolf Panda Trueno Join Date: Jan 2015 Drives: No twin now. Location: North Indiana Posts: 3,349 Thanks: 2,113 Thanked 2,409 Times in 1,332 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	No manual, No want. That sounds like a horrible deal by even having a salesman mention automatic.... ugh.

04-18-2016, 04:36 PM	#10
covance Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Drives: 2015 BRZ series.blue Location: VA Posts: 182 Thanks: 216 Thanked 59 Times in 40 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Manual more fun Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04-18-2016, 04:51 PM	#11
carczar87 Perpetually Sideways Join Date: Dec 2015 Drives: '14 DGM BRZ, '94 Volvo 940 Turbo Location: Illinois Posts: 94 Thanks: 143 Thanked 38 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There are obviously a lot of people who drive these cars who really enjoy driving a manual, but you really can't let that influence you. I test drove both versions of the car myself and was quite impressed by the responsiveness and smoothness of the auto. I concur with what @Tcoat said, you really need to drive both versions before you can know for sure how you'd feel about the auto. I wouldn't let the fact that he's giving you a "deal" on the auto influence the decision. Buy the transmission you prefer, it's what you'll be driving around with.

04-18-2016, 04:51 PM	#12
tommewin Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Drives: '15 BRZ Location: Houston,TX Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There's a reason that they're willing to see the auto at a manual price, lack of demand. Re-sale value is going to be less down the road as well.

04-18-2016, 08:33 PM	#13
Side Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Drives: 2018 BRZ tS Location: Washington Posts: 212 Thanks: 314 Thanked 114 Times in 69 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I chose the automatic based on my current needs, and have no regrets. You will want to evaluate your needs and test drive both if possible. If test driving the automatic is not an available option, go with the manual because you have already driven it and confirmed you enjoyed it.

04-18-2016, 08:39 PM	#14
g e Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ Location: Somewhere in The States Posts: 408 Thanks: 338 Thanked 277 Times in 163 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	It depends what floats your boat. I love working the gears and would be bored to tears with an automatic. Others feel differently. You know you best. I hope.

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