If I change to 4.55 gears to a AT

[go_a_way1]

Originally Posted by Riftur

Go troll somewhere else.

honestly this isnt trolling. You should see what goes down here sometimes. Just keep an open mind and expect a lot of memes with a little technical talk in between. If you cant handle that PM some of us for serious discussion

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

How about you take responsibility for your actions and not try to abuse the system? If you want to modify your car then you should be willing to accept certain consequences. If you can't afford to have your car break down maybe you shouldn't modify it in the first place.

THIS^^^^
You break it you pay for it. Now if there is no way it is related then that is warranty. Altering something like gearing and then expecting warranty coverage is not reasonable. This sort of thing can drive the cost of cars up for everybody. People wonder why some dealers challenge every thing?

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

How about you take responsibility for your actions and not try to abuse the system? If you want to modify your car then you should be willing to accept certain consequences. If you can't afford to have your car break down maybe you shouldn't modify it in the first place.

Originally Posted by Riftur

yeah but the only thing they would check it for would be for tranny or engine failure. I wouldnt think anything else though.


If one of those goes out I change gears back before getting serviced.

@funwheeldrive has got it right, if you can't afford the repercussions of failure anywhere on the car regardless after a mod don't mod at all. Also I don't think you know enough about FD gears to say you'll just swap them back, it's alot of work to go back to stock from another gear set in the diff then back to the 4.55. To tell you the truth if you keep the stock diff cover, they really won't be able to tell because with 4.55 you'll accelerate and and take off at around the same pace as the manual, they'd need to crack open that differential case to notice anything.

[Mim]

Its pretty much a stealth mod assuming you don't go one further with swapping the drive shaft also. Then its like any other mod ie mitigation of failure via researching the merits (and demerits) of the mod, quality parts and using a professional installer.

[chaoskaze]

That's one of the best mod for Auto.

Why even ask for warranty? It's a final drive just get another one. Engine warranty is engine warranty? No?

Assuming it works like how I think it works.... It's the things it has direct contact to will be out of warranty? If rear axle goes bad just get a new rear axle, some of them go bad even on stock anyway.


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[Riftur]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

@funwheeldrive has got it right, if you can't afford the repercussions of failure anywhere on the car regardless after a mod don't mod at all. Also I don't think you know enough about FD gears to say you'll just swap them back, it's alot of work to go back to stock from another gear set in the diff then back to the 4.55. To tell you the truth if you keep the stock diff cover, they really won't be able to tell because with 4.55 you'll accelerate and and take off at around the same pace as the manual, they'd need to crack open that differential case to notice anything.

What I am worried about is the extended warranty which they will use anything they can to not cover you. The same rules that apply to a manufactur warranty does not apply to extended warranty's. If something was to break because of the gears I would pay for that. It's everything else I am worried about.

[Mim]

I care about my warranty, but viewed an FD and drive shaft to be a low risk / high return proposition. I had the choice of extended warranty on the condition I took it back to the same dealer for service, but realized I would barely last the full 3 year factory one given the desire to add a header and custom tune.

All said and done, having lived with this mod for four months, I'd say it was transformative for the AT. It improved my economy as it made higher gears more usable (while in sports mode) and Improved throttle response.

The best way I can describe it (to an AT owner) is the car feels roughly as responsive with a full to the brim tank of gas as yours does when your low fuel light comes on.

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by Riftur

What I am worried about is the extended warranty which they will use anything they can to not cover you. The same rules that apply to a manufactur warranty does not apply to extended warranty's. If something was to break because of the gears I would pay for that. It's everything else I am worried about.

If you want to start modding stuff that bad probably shouldn't have got the extended warranty. Personally I don't think I would mod internal mechanisms if you are worried about warranty coverage being denied. Just because something shouldn't be denied doesn't mean that can't make it a pain in the ass and a colossal waste of your time.

@funwheeldrive was right in what he said. Don't read everything that disagrees with your wish/thoughts as being harsh but just another opinion that may or may not be valid.

[skye67]

Ok, Here is my $.02.
When I first bought my WRX in 2002. I was dieing to Mod the motor. But Service dealers were going as far as watching the Forums and seeing what people were doing to their cars. And using that info against them in warranty claims. I never had the money or time to Mod it before it R.I.P. with 175K miles and a roll over accident.
In 2003 I bought a Ford F250 with 6.0TDI. Knowing the problem people were having and know I would Mod the motor later. I would whip the piss out of that truck, take it back to the dealer for servicing, and let them know. I was whipping the piss out of it and they better check out well! At $350 a service! The dam truck better run! During the time it was under warrenty, only had the AC pump and FICM fixed. 1 years after the warranty. Mods intake, Catback, tuner=425HP. 2 years after that...more tune= 525HP. Now truck in shop with 3 blow injectors and bad ICP and being bullet proofed. Cost: intake, Catback, Tune,+Tune($2000) plus rebuild($6500 so far). And more plans more the truck.
2012 BRZ, got in, started car...totaled. No realy, operator error, I hit a embankment.
2013 BRZ( yes I bought a slow car twice) But this time, At 2500 miles, I installed a intake,header, Catback, Tuner.. At 20K regear the rear end. To hell with the warranty! The only thing I would be using the warranty for is the power windows, AC, and the radio.
The moral to the story... us your warrenty for what its met for, to keep your vehicle working like it should. Or dam the warranty! forget about the check and get hell to pay!
Don't be a bitch and man up to what you bring upon yourself!

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by skye67

Ok, Here is my $.02.
When I first bought my WRX in 2002. I was dieing to Mod the motor. But Service dealers were going as far as watching the Forums and seeing what people were doing to their cars. And using that info against them in warranty claims. I never had the money or time to Mod it before it R.I.P. with 175K miles and a roll over accident.
In 2003 I bought a Ford F250 with 6.0TDI. Knowing the problem people were having and know I would Mod the motor later. I would whip the piss out of that truck, take it back to the dealer for servicing, and let them know. I was whipping the piss out of it and they better check out well! At $350 a service! The dam truck better run! During the time it was under warrenty, only had the AC pump and FICM fixed. 1 years after the warranty. Mods intake, Catback, tuner=425HP. 2 years after that...more tune= 525HP. Now truck in shop with 3 blow injectors and bad ICP and being bullet proofed. Cost: intake, Catback, Tune,+Tune($2000) plus rebuild($6500 so far). And more plans more the truck.
2012 BRZ, got in, started car...totaled. No realy, operator error, I hit a embankment.
2013 BRZ( yes I bought a slow car twice) But this time, At 2500 miles, I installed a intake,header, Catback, Tuner.. At 20K regear the rear end. To hell with the warranty! The only thing I would be using the warranty for is the power windows, AC, and the radio.
The moral to the story... us your warrenty for what its met for, to keep your vehicle working like it should. Or dam the warranty! forget about the check and get hell to pay!
Don't be a bitch and man up to what you bring upon yourself!

This honestly doesn't add much to the post

Putting a final drive in this car especially is a super stealth mod, nothing can be voided if something happens unless it's a rear diff issue or a rear axle issue which can be blamed on installer error. In no way will it effect the engine other than allow you to keep the power band, a majority of the dealers are clueless and won't even crack the diff open to check.

[Ocala FR-S]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

Putting a final drive in this car especially is a super stealth mod, nothing can be voided if something happens unless it's a rear diff issue or a rear axle issue which can be blamed on installer error. In no way will it effect the engine other than allow you to keep the power band, a majority of the dealers are clueless and won't even crack the diff open to check.

Stealth?, yes but still detectable. Clueless dealers?, pretty much, but you don't have to crack the diff open to check. The change in vehicle speed compared to RPMs tells the story with the only other possibility being a highly unlikely replacement of the transmission gears. Also, I would not underestimate a dealers tendency to blame other ills on an altered diff starting with failed CV joints and any number of electronic shifting malfunctions.

Anyway, I would do this mod in a heartbeat except it would take me way out out of C Street class in autocross. It's what the automatic needs.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by Ocala FR-S

Stealth?, yes but still detectable. Clueless dealers?, pretty much, but you don't have to crack the diff open to check. The change in vehicle speed compared to RPMs tells the story with the only other possibility being a highly unlikely replacement of the transmission gears. Also, I would not underestimate a dealers tendency to blame other ills on an altered diff starting with failed CV joints and any number of electronic shifting malfunctions.

Anyway, I would do this mod in a heartbeat except it would take me way out out of C Street class in autocross. It's what the automatic needs.

The TCM does notice the new gears btw thats a misconception, rear axle failure I can understand.

[Hawk77FT]

I changed my FD and it is nothing that I would associate with "stealth". A specialized mechanic will know the gears have been changed. Especially if they have driven few already! But like everybody mentioned, you gotta pay to play. If you can't afford the consequences of fucking things up, might as well not do it all!