Preferred downshifting method?

[ZionsWrath]

Yea... My rev matching and double clutching is not done in any regard to extending the life of any part of the car. In fact I'm sure this car (with 40k miles) has more wear and tear on it than my 2003 accord with 140k miles based on the way I drive it.

ITT thread: Basic Physics is ignored.

Moving along.

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[ZionsWrath]

Originally Posted by ButeraFRS

ITT thread: Basic Physics is ignored.

Moving along.

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nope.

hit the clutch

hit the gear

hit the gas

im gone

Originally Posted by extrashaky

Actually, you undermine your own argument with that comment. My old Triumph with the inline 6 could put your face into the steering wheel with a downshift. The little 4 cylinder in the twins has higher compression but revs higher and doesn't give nearly the braking power. That means there's less shock from engine braking on the entire system. It's almost as if the car were designed with this type of driving in mind.

Yeah I didn't use my motorcycle as an example of something that engine brakes well because it weighed a quarter of what this car weighs and all movements were exaggerated. It was 400 ccs by the way. Even at the MSF courses the 125s engine braked like a dream.

Motorcycles and cars are two different machines.



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Originally Posted by ZionsWrath

nope.

hit the clutch

hit the gear

hit the gas

im gone

I wonder if these people would put their money where their mouth is. Thought expirament: 2 cars that are identical and are driven the same up for sale both for the same price. 1 has 300 kms one has 30,000 kms. I wonder if these guys would buy the 30,000 km car based on their logic.

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[ZionsWrath]

Originally Posted by ButeraFRS

I wonder if these people would put their money where their mouth is. Thought expirament: 2 cars that are identical and are driven the same up for sale both for the same price. 1 has 300 kms one has 30,000 kms. I wonder if these guys would buy the 30,000 km car based on their logic.

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wut? 300kms is new

I don't get it

[Gunman]

I just give the paddle on the left a pull

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Amen!


I do enjoy the thought process of many when it comes to downshifting though. Almost every argument against it involves "but it is hard on the engine, transmission drive train, etc to jolt it like that". It seems like everybody thinks you need to downshift and slam the car to red line. When downshifting to use engine braking I will rarely even end up at 3 or 4K after the shift. There are no jolts, stresses or any other abnormal conditions to any components. It just feels like an auto downshifting on it's own.


I love reading:
"OH I redline 100 times a day"
"This car would be much better with 350HP"
"Turbo is required for this car"
"I love kicking that rear around ever single corner"
"Need at least 20 degrees camber to be right"
"Wide sticky tires are a must if you really drive this car right"
"Got me a header and a tune from Bubba's Back Ally tuning"


"WHAT YOU DOWNSHIFT TO BRAKE? YOU ARE DESTORYING YOUR CAR YOU MORON. ROTORS CHEAPER THAN ENGINES FOOL"

Originally Posted by extrashaky

I think it's funny that people talk on this board about doing all sorts of things that stress the fuck out of this car, yet there's always somebody worried about minor, unsubstantiated wear from engine braking.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Beat ya to it!

[MisterSheep]

Originally Posted by MrFisty

When downshifting, I prefer to run out the current gear and then smash it into the lower gear. Racing Style and shit.

lol with a loud ass rev match and loud popping exhaust nonsense goin on..

Isn't that how I get instagram followers?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ButeraFRS

ITT thread: Basic Physics is ignored.

Moving along.

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Hey Bute remember that the designers of these clutches, transmissions and engines are also well versed in physics and actually design the cars to be downshifted and engine braked. It is not something people are doing beyond the design of the car.

[MisterSheep]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Hey Bute remember that the designers of these clutches, transmissions and engines are also well versed in physics and actually design the cars to be downshifted and engine braked. It is not something people are doing beyond the design of the car.

simple answer to all of this. Just go buy a fucking automatic if you're worried about "engine braking"

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by MisterSheep

simple answer to all of this. Just go buy a fucking automatic if you're worried about "engine braking"

Which strangely enough uses engine braking!

[MisterSheep]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Which strangely enough uses engine braking!

yeah but the driver isn't in control of the engine braking.. the car is, so it can't be the driver's fault.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Hey Bute remember that the designers of these clutches, transmissions and engines are also well versed in physics and actually design the cars to be downshifted and engine braked. It is not something people are doing beyond the design of the car.

You're missing the point... they don't make the cars fool proof. And nothing lasts forever. Stop over simplifying everything.

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