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HunterGreene · 04-22-2013, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cfusionpm

Back seats were ok if you were under 5'10". Anything more and it wasn't pleasant. Plenty of leg room, but heads banged the hatch often, especially over bumps.

The reclining feature on the rear seats was something people enjoyed when they rode back there. That said, I'll agree, the back seats were not the best.

cfusionpm · 04-22-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HunterGreene

The reclining feature on the rear seats was something people enjoyed when they rode back there. That said, I'll agree, the back seats were not the best.

Couldn't recline mine because of my subwoofer box right up next to the seat. But before I put it in, it was a nice feature!

serith · 04-22-2013, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cfusionpm

That's weird. I owned a 2005 tC for 8 years and while it's definitely no Lexus, it's significantly softer and quieter than the FR-S. Even after I put in springs to lower and stiffen it, the ride was very plush compared to now. In 05,it had a lot of features and amenities that most other cars in that price range did not. I loved it and would probably still be driving it if it wasn't upside down on a freeway off ramp.

I've owned two tC's (06 and 09). My 09 is lowered (the 06 was not), has sways on front/rear, on low profile tires (225/40/18), and the ride quality is fine. I like to actually feel the road though, maybe that's why it doesn't bother me. Funny how much hate for the tC I read on this forum. It's just a 2 door camry with a more aggressively geared tranny (manual). If the tC was RWD and was tuned better to use all 2.4L of it's engine instead of the lazy 160hp it came with (2nd gen not withstanding), it would be such a better car. Sadly, it's a FWD slow grocery getter--but cheap to maintain, insure, and own.

dem00n · 04-22-2013, 02:00 PM

tC? Oh, the guys who try to race me all the time with FWD?

I always notice they have spikey hair and earnings.

Ha, earnings on a dude.

naikaidriver · 04-22-2013, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by serith

I've owned two tC's (06 and 09). My 09 is lowered (the 06 was not), has sways on front/rear, on low profile tires (225/40/18), and the ride quality is fine. I like to actually feel the road though, maybe that's why it doesn't bother me. Funny how much hate for the tC I read on this forum. It's just a 2 door camry with a more aggressively geared tranny (manual). If the tC was RWD and was tuned better to use all 2.4L of it's engine instead of the lazy 160hp it came with (2nd gen not withstanding), it would be such a better car. Sadly, it's a FWD slow grocery getter--but cheap to maintain, insure, and own.

Don't forget AWESOME resale value on the tCs!

My wife has a 2006 tC with 77k miles on it and those are still selling for over $10,000 on Autotrader! Some in "perfect" shape with similar miles are selling for $13,000! Not a bad depreciation at all considering new, they were going for $17,000.

I was looking into this because I thought it might be fun to build a 2005 tC club racing car if I could find a manual car for around $5,000. Yeah, not going to happen! They just held their value too well.

Scott

serith · 04-22-2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dem00n

tC? Oh, the guys who try to race me all the time with FWD?

I always notice they have spikey hair and earnings.

Ha, earnings on a dude.

The tC is quick enough to get out of its own way, that's about it. And this stereotype you speak of.. I don't know it.

naikaidriver · 04-22-2013, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by serith

The tC is quick enough to get out of its own way, that's about it. And this stereotype you speak of.. I don't know it.

Neither do I.

Besides, just about every type of car out there has their own little club of "morons". Stupidity is not brand-specific.

Last year I autocrossed my wife's tC in H-Stock and did pretty well with it. Its a nice little car with potential.

Scott

shawnperolis · 04-22-2013, 02:52 PM

I think tCs look pretty snazzy. If I wanted a nice FWD, reliable, economy car that's what I'd buy.

cfusionpm · 04-22-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by naikaidriver

Don't forget AWESOME resale value on the tCs!

My wife has a 2006 tC with 77k miles on it and those are still selling for over $10,000 on Autotrader! Some in "perfect" shape with similar miles are selling for $13,000! Not a bad depreciation at all considering new, they were going for $17,000.

I was looking into this because I thought it might be fun to build a 2005 tC club racing car if I could find a manual car for around $5,000. Yeah, not going to happen! They just held their value too well.

Scott

When I rolled my 2005 with 75k miles, I got $10,500 from insurance. Helped out quite a bit with my huge down payment on the FR-S.

kioton32 · 04-22-2013, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterGreene

Before we start getting worried about speculation, remember that the cars are built by Subaru. If the BRZ continues to be made by Subaru, FR-S owners will at least have access to major parts for fixes.

Toyota has the contract for these cars... Of they want to cut production then we lose all of them, BRZ included.

Braces · 04-22-2013, 06:20 PM

The FR-S isn't going anywhere. Toyota invested alot of R&D (read: $$$$) into this little light weight rear driver. Yes ... it is quite possible that Toyota branded the FRS a scion to "help" the brand. I still wish it was branded a GT-86 .... or BRZ. Toyota in developing the twins is trying to change its image of building only moving appliances. They succeeded in building excitement at the entry level. The next step is the Supra and I can hardly wait.

As for longevity. Who knows? I believe the boxer motor will outlive the body. The shell is so THIN to save weight. For the record .... I have 7000 miles with no issues. I still chuckle when the rear end brakes loose a little around corners into a perfect drift. GREAT CAR.

vgi · 03-31-2016, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Apoc

My take on this is that Scion as a brand is not doing well in North America. This may affect the future of the FR-S, which is under the Scion brand. If Scion goes away I would speculate Toyota will simply release GT86 in NA instead. They wouldn't be so stupid as throw the FR-S away just yet considering the market demand.

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Apoc · 03-31-2016, 11:49 PM

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Oh snap. I am a marketing genius

RichardsFRS · 04-01-2016, 07:40 AM

Being a one off car , yes its going to get more expensive to maintain and replace parts for this car. I don't see this car stepping anywhere near the bounds the Miata did. Miata was before its time and came out the right time to corner the market.

My last little scion got 180k then it broke to the point it cost more to fix than its worth. And I was tired of it

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RichardsFRS Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Drives: 2013 Pearl White 6MT Location: Gainesville Ga Posts: 938 Thanks: 5 Thanked 356 Times in 246 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Being a one off car , yes its going to get more expensive to maintain and replace parts for this car. I don't see this car stepping anywhere near the bounds the Miata did. Miata was before its time and came out the right time to corner the market. My last little scion got 180k then it broke to the point it cost more to fix than its worth. And I was tired of it __________________ Back from bancation in Banopolis where I laid on the beach with a beer between my legs. I at night and ate at sun rise

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