AM I AN IDIOT??

[Aozora.BRZ]

So everybody said go ahead, when do you start?

[irax]

Originally Posted by SlammedSilly

VQ's are nice, downfall for them is that they all sound the same no matter what you do... if i had the funding for a VK, by all means... i would do that, haha

I actually love the VQ sound. But the sound can change depending on the exhaust configuration.

Have you forgotten about the exhaust system that SG Motorsports became famous for ?


Makes the VQ sound like a formula 1 car.

[SlammedSilly]

Originally Posted by irax

I actually love the VQ sound. But the sound can change depending on the exhaust configuration.

Have you forgotten about the exhaust system that SG Motorsports became famous for ?


Makes the VQ sound like a formula 1 car.

from what i remember they stopped production.... i could be wrong, but i looked into that like a year or so ago before i bought my frs... i was gonna buy an 08 350z with 20k on it for $20,000 but i wanted those headers, kida sad to say i didnt buy the car bc the headers werent available, hahah

[DHitHim]

Nothing wrong with tried and trued engine swaps. People do it because it works and can be done with someone else's fuck up and headaches, the next person will be able to take those into consideration have spend less money than the original person that did the swap. By all means go for the KA-T. It's good to see that this platform can fit almost anything.

[86 South Africa]

I interested to see what you do in the end... :-)

[TylerLieberman]

Originally Posted by SlammedSilly

personaly, ive never had a problem with any KA-T that i drove. i also love the cast iron block, aluminum is looking for trouble in my opinion... and i only say that bc the SR. but they are easily buildable, and on top of that. every 240 kid pulls theres out and sells for stupid cheap. i always picked up full motors for like $50... and took what i needed at times, trans normally go for $150-200 around here depending if the person you buy from is trying to drift tax you or not.

I had a '98 240sx with a KA paired with GReddy's TD06 kit. It was fine... Around 250whp and was just right for a daily driven car. I never went higher though, just because I felt like I'd be playing with fire and pushing my luck lol. KAs aren't as bad as some people make them out to be, but they're definitely a bit pricey if you want to support bigger numbers reliably.

Personally, I think the 300-ish whp mark is perfect on those 240s. Very responsive, usable power, and still at a reliable level. Having driven cars ranging from stock KA-Es up to ProAm level JZ powered cars, one of my absolute favorite's was a friends S13 that ran an SR with a 2871 .64a/r, poncams, PowerFC etc. E85 and made just over 330whp. It was stupid fun.

Originally Posted by mav1178

That's where you are 100% wrong.

A SR is not junk nor is it always having issues. The engine is only as good as the tuner and installer.

Most people don't even bother to consider the age and condition of the engine. It is used, sits around in junkyards, on a boat for weeks, and otherwise are not maintained very well.

I can build a SR w/ stock bottom end and make 400RWHP out of it easily. I can build a clean KA and make 400RWHP out of it easily. Both will be equally as reliable, I just have to spend more money on the KA tuning.

-alex

^^THIS!

SR vs. KA: I'd honestly rather take the SR. The aftermarket and tuning selection is endless, and provided you use the proper components and tuning, they can last. Just like KAs. A lot of the KAs I see blow up are people running stock internals with some Ebay turbo kit pushing like 300whp and a garbage tune. Obviously it's going to go. My biggest gripe with the KAs and SRs are the transmissions. Once you start getting into the mid-high 300s, you start running into the issues of them grenading (in drifting applications), especially when you start running higher levels of grip. Of course, swapping to a different trans is an option... but still.
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All in all, I'm pro SR. KA-T with forced induction and near the limit of what's safe on stock internals is roundabout where a simple SR with a T28 will land you. Plus the availability of parts isn't limited on the SR by any means. Options are limitless. Personally, I can't see the reason from ditching the FA20 to put in a KA24. It just doesn't make any sense to me, and this is coming from somebody who strongly believes this car would have been way better with an Inline 4, rather than a boxer 4. If you want to do it just to do it, and be different, then by all means-go ahead.

If I were spending my money on a swap, I'd be going VVTi 1JZ with R154. Bolt-ons and tune yields mid 300s easy and the drivetrain can take the abuse all day. Plus, the engine really isn't much more than an SR. It's quite cheap. The transmission is where the cost starts getting higher.

[Leonardo]

Have you already answered your own question rhetorically?

[jdmblood]

Complains that a 5k s14 is too expensive but wants to buy a 15k frs to ruin...

Originally Posted by SlammedSilly

i totally agree with you, but i could care less about AC, heat, the radio, so ill see what i can do about running factory harness with a standalone... probably wont work, but worth a shot. and the reason for not building a 240 is... everyone and their mother up here are drift taxed... a rusted out car will go for $1000... like now. S13's arent worth more than $1500 stock with a clean imho. s14's are like $2500 for a beat up one to 5k for a stupid clean with no problems. im not spending that much money on just the car. and i will not buy a project that was already started

[SlammedSilly]

Originally Posted by jdmblood

Complains that a 5k s14 is too expensive but wants to buy a 15k frs to ruin...

i agree with you, but its different. why buy a car thats 20 years old for 5k when it wont be worth anything after the build. dont get me wrong, the frs isnt going be worth a lot more, but fuck it

[TylerLieberman]

Originally Posted by SlammedSilly

i agree with you, but its different. why buy a car thats 20 years old for 5k when it wont be worth anything after the build. dont get me wrong, the frs isnt going be worth a lot more, but fuck it

5k for a really clean s14 is nothing to complain about. Here in CA, people want like 8-10k. That's drift tax. 3k for a decent s13 really is no big deal.

When you start seeing single cam KA S13s with a welded diff and busted exterior on ISIS coilovers for 6k, then you can complain about drift tax lol

[SlammedSilly]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

5k for a really clean s14 is nothing to complain about. Here in CA, people want like 8-10k. That's drift tax. 3k for a decent s13 really is no big deal.

When you start seeing single cam KA S13s with a welded diff and busted exterior on ISIS coilovers for 6k, then you can complain about drift tax lol

its like that in the tristate man, the drift tax here is stupid

[KendallH]

Originally Posted by SlammedSilly

VQ's are nice, downfall for them is that they all sound the same no matter what you do... if i had the funding for a VK, by all means... i would do that, haha

Wants to swap in 20+ year old truck based engine because it's "unique". Doesn't want to swap in far superior sports car engine because "they all sound the same".

You don't let logic get in the way of your thought process at all do you?

[SlammedSilly]

Originally Posted by KendallH

Wants to swap in 20+ year old truck based engine because it's "unique". Doesn't want to swap in far superior sports car engine because "they all sound the same".

You don't let logic get in the way of your thought process at all do you?

nah man, fuck it right?

[nickmerronesucks]

Originally Posted by KendallH

Wants to swap in 20+ year old truck based engine because it's "unique". Doesn't want to swap in far superior sports car engine because "they all sound the same".

You don't let logic get in the way of your thought process at all do you?

QFT