2017 Toyota 86 - new name, styling, and more power

[PICKLEBOY]

Originally Posted by krayzie

Yup that and direct injection.

Subaru of America doesn't seem to know how or want to sell a car that deviates from their awd marketing profile.

This is why I don't think the twins will ever happen again, at least not in North America.

Now we wait for the new Supra if it even happens.

Well except we will see a 2nd generation of the twins, that has been confirmed by both Subaru and Toyota... and its pretty well assumed that the BMW and Toyota venture will be the next Supra.

[Mr.Impreza]

Thanks Toyota, for making the 1st gen look better ^__~

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by Mr.Impreza

Thanks Toyota, for making the 1st gen look better ^__~

I'd rather have a second generation that performs better than one that looks better. Of course both would be nice.

[quik1987]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

It is a monospec Toyota.... same HVAC as the FRS. That's what they get.

The FR-S Monogram series had this though

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by quik1987

The FR-S Monogram series had this though

That's a monogram..... I believe both release series and the 10 series had the dual climate as well. Those are special editions and you paid for them. Basically a BRZ's appointments in an FRS.

[quik1987]

So what I'm saying is they couldn't include that in the update?

[PICKLEBOY]

Originally Posted by quik1987

So what I'm saying is they couldn't include that in the update?

And he's saying if they do, you'll pay more for it.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by quik1987

So what I'm saying is they couldn't include that in the update?

Still a monospec car trying to be affordable...so, no.


Maybe when / if they introduce trim levels later on? The BRZ is still the "premium" version and the Toyota is the "entry level." Want the dual climate now find a BRZ with it or a limited edition FRS with it.

[gtslow]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

Still a monospec car trying to be affordable...so, no.


Maybe when / if they introduce trim levels later on? The BRZ is still the "premium" version and the Toyota is the "entry level." Want the dual climate now find a BRZ with it or a limited edition FRS with it.

Was there a press release saying it is monospec? That was Scion's mantra not Toyota's who has tons of different trim levels for their vehicles.

The Toyota 86 in the rest of the world can be ordered from stripper model to one that has the premium features of the monograms.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by gtslow

Was there a press release saying it is monospec? That was Scion's mantra not Toyota's who has tons of different trim levels for their vehicles.

The Toyota 86 in the rest of the world can be ordered from stripper model to one that has the premium features of the monograms.

Yes there was, at least for the first year.


Yes the different trim levels in other parts of the world is common knowledge.

[quik1987]

Lots of money went into developing new headlights with LED DRL, taillights, front bumper, back bumper, internals, wheels, tires, interior finishes, suspension, steering wheel controls

I would have traded off steering wheel buttons for dual hvac with a start engine button

It would have been affordable cause they didn't need to develop new parts just use pre existing ones

[Tcoat]

People are going to expect full optioned cars at Scion prices.


FOOLS!!!!!!!!

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by quik1987

Lots of money went into developing new headlights with LED DRL, taillights, front bumper, back bumper, internals, wheels, tires, interior finishes, suspension, steering wheel controls

I would have traded off steering wheel buttons for dual hvac with a start engine button

It would have been affordable cause they didn't need to develop new parts just use pre existing ones

I'm willing to bet you will not like the new pricing which includes all that. So add 1800 or so to that and maybe you could have had the dual climate HVAC in the new car too.


Who knows, Toyota hasn't released the new car pricing, but I'm betting people will hate it lol.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Mr.Impreza

I posted this in the poll thread, but it's appropriate here also. With that comparison, I now see what they're doing with the goofy front end. They're "evolving" the front end toward the FT-1 concept:



This way, when the FT-1 finally comes to market, it won't look completely foreign. It will share stylistic cues with the existing sports car line. I suspect that the redesign of the 86 in a couple of years will give it an even sharper nose to fill in the gap between this year's refresh and the FT-1, so that when you see the 86 and release version of the FT-1 side by side, it'll be immediately clear that they are in the same family.