Dealership has to call California?

[Summerwolf]

I think you'll be fine. They'd have to prove those parts cause a timing issue somehow to deny warranty work.


Although as a dealer they might be able to do that....

[NyC Zn6]

Originally Posted by justatroll

To contrast what has been said above:


It would be highly unlikely that the dealership will fix, or even work on your car with the mods installed, but it is up to the individual dealership whether they want to be a **** or not.


Best case: They tell you to return the car to stock and then they will work on it.
Worst case: they deny warranty work based on the mods, and make an entry in your records stating such.


#1 question: DO YOU have a tune on the car now?

If he did have a tune and flashed back to stock dealership would still be able to see how many times the ecu was flashed.

[justatroll]

Originally Posted by NyC Zn6

If he did have a tune and flashed back to stock dealership would still be able to see how many times the ecu was flashed.

So far that is an unsubstantiated myth.
I know of no-one that has actually seen this so-called flash counter.


And if the OP has ONLY and inlet tube and a cat-back, he should be fine.
At first I thought he said "Intake" which usually means a tune is required.


the OP should be fine with what are essentially cosmetic mods.

AND:

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

I think you'll be fine. They'd have to prove those parts cause a timing issue somehow to deny warranty work.
Although as a dealer they might be able to do that....

I tire of hearing that. The dealership can CERTAINLY deny the warranty work and claim anything they want.
It is then up to the Customer to take them to court to "prove" anything.

[lizbrayan]

Hey just wanted to thank all of you so far for the advice and help that you have given me. Like i said tomorrow 9 am sharp the car will be at the dealer. So as soon as i get the keys back (hopefully) i will post what they resovled with the car. The service manager filed a claim with toyota hq in cali and one of the case managers called me today and said he will investigate on his end what was up with the car and the cel and should be getting back to me in 2 buisness days.

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[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by lizbrayan

Hey...

I have a feeling you may be a member of the valve timing fail club. This very long running thread is stickied. Don't let it scare you. It's a well known issue by now and will be resolved.

[lizbrayan]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I have a feeling you may be a member of the valve timing fail club. This very long running thread is stickied. Don't let it scare you. It's a well known issue by now and will be resolved.

Does it cause engine failure?

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[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by lizbrayan

Does it cause engine failure?

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As I understand entirely from reading others' experiences here, IF the root failure is the separation of a certain plate in one of the timing gears which causes a drop in oil pressure AND the condition is ignored, then yes.

That is the worst possible scenario. There are other more common electrical issues which have a similar effect and are all lumped into this one category.

I spent way too much time at work this morning looking for a picture of that failed valve assembly.

Totally armchair troubleshooting here so I wouldn't put much credence in my guesses. Take the trust-but-verify approach with your dealer. It's a warranty case. Chin up and advocate for yourself professionally.

[kash]

Such a stressful event. Hope everything turns out ok. Please keep us posted on the result of their investigation.

[unplugged]

Originally Posted by justatroll

So far that is an unsubstantiated myth.
I know of no-one that has actually seen this so-called flash counter.


And if the OP has ONLY and inlet tube and a cat-back, he should be fine.
At first I thought he said "Intake" which usually means a tune is required.


the OP should be fine with what are essentially cosmetic mods.

AND:



I tire of hearing that. The dealership can CERTAINLY deny the warranty work and claim anything they want.
It is then up to the Customer to take them to court to "prove" anything.

I've worked at a Honda dealer that saw a lot of 'tuner' cars and honestly, the service guys will not check for flashes unless they physically need to replace the ECU and your car is modded past intake and exhaust or drives like it's been modified (no vtec dip, higher rev limit, etc).

Service writers and even the service manager are unlikely to deny you of warranty or service work with bolt-ons at first glance. Why? The dealer makes money off of warranty work.

It's the mechanics that say, this car is too modified to work on. We don't want to figure out how aftermarket part A, B, C go back on and so forth. We also don't want to be liable for breaking parts A, B, C. So that's why if you need to replace the throttle body and you have an intake, the mechanic may say no and you have to put the factory air box back on.

See if a mechanic breaks an OEM part, they most likely have a replacement in stock or can order one from their dealer network and have it same day, next day, or within the week. They can write the cost off on warranty and the manufacturer will pay for it.

Hope that clears up some things.

[Theratt1]

I've worked at a dealer albit nissan as a tech and to put it. Most techs do not give a flying crap what you do to your car as long as it has stock wiring harness and stock sensors and they can actually get reliable data from the pcm/tcm. If it's been hacked then yes you'll pay straight time but since it's warranty it should go easily. No out of pocket for you. Depending on techs involved and what kind of management there is. There is one dealer here in my area that if you so much as change the air filter yourself they won't warranty it. But the techs don't care either way and just do it. It's a ford dealer btw.

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@lizbrayan updates?

[lizbrayan]

Hey sorry guys ive been really bisy with work just got promoted and school with midterms. So i took it back to the dealership and they came back and told me it was a lose gas cap. Called bs on so quick. They told me thats what theyre computer said. Whatever if it was fixed it was fixed. Few days later went for a sprited drive with the sports mode on and manual shifting (car is A/T) and after about 15-20 mins the cel came back on. I said F*** it and drove home shut it off and let it sit for a day or so. Came back light was gone and drove fine. This is the most confusing car I've ever owned

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[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by lizbrayan

Hey sorry guys ive been really bisy with work just got promoted and school with midterms. So i took it back to the dealership and they came back and told me it was a lose gas cap. Called bs on so quick. They told me thats what theyre computer said. Whatever if it was fixed it was fixed. Few days later went for a sprited drive with the sports mode on and manual shifting (car is A/T) and after about 15-20 mins the cel came back on. I said F*** it and drove home shut it off and let it sit for a day or so. Came back light was gone and drove fine. This is the most confusing car I've ever owned

It's a leak in the evap emissions control or something related. It's lazy of the dealership to just point to a loose gas cap and send you on your way.

edit: I mean if the code they pulled points to that area, the most common cause is a loose gas cap. That doesn't mean it's the only cause. I think there's even a vacuum pump that runs from time to time when the car is shut off.

I don't think that would cause the horrible shudder that you were experiencing earlier.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by lizbrayan

This is the most confusing car I've ever owned

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The smarter the cars get the more messages they will send you about their aches and pains. Was a day when you would be blissfully ignorant of any issues until they blew up in your face.