Unofficial - CEL/SL/Idle Issue List for FR-S/BRZ Owners - Scion FR-S Forum | Subaru BRZ Forum | Toyota 86 GT 86 Forum | AS1 Forum

eurospeed · 08-24-2012, 06:53 PM

Folks, my goal is to document the number of owners, their mileage, status of their cars along with other pertinent info. I feel it will be a good snapshot to help understand the severity and broad reach of this problem.

BACKGROUND
While this idle issue may manifest itself as an initial dip, please only add your name if you have experienced a combination of the check engine light (CEL) and slip light (SL) in addition to the RPM hunting at idle (often severe shaking and stalling). The code your engine control unit (ECU) should have stored is P0019 (also optional P0017, P0018 or related cam codes).

Toyota and Subaru have developed various solutions for this issue which have not been consistent and may require multiple repairs or even vehicle replacement due to limited success. Repairs could include a combination of the following: replacing cam sprocket assemblies, replacing oil control valves, reflashing and/or replacing the ECU. To expedite service and express your concerns, be sure to contact the corporate customer service numbers below.

PHONE NUMBERS
Scion Customer Service: 866-707-2466
Subaru Customer Service: 800-782-2783

Automotive Magazines/Websites Reporting the Issue
Automobile Magazine (2012.October)
Automotive News (2012.October.03)
AUTOWEEK (2012.October.04) | AUTOWEEK Video (2012.October.05)
Motor Trend (2012.October.04)
autoblog (2012.October.05)
Jalopnik (2012.October.03)
Torque News (2012.October.04)
egmCarTech (2012.October.07)

Forums and Other Related Threads
Toyota UK Statement (states 4% of vehicles are affected)
BRZ CEL/Idle Video | FR-S CEL/Idle Video
Early FR-S Issue and Engine Failure | Another FR-S Engine Failure | FR-S on Fire
Idle Issues Thread | RPM Fluctuation Thread | Idle Issues in UK | AVO CEL Thread
CEL Thread #1 | CEL Thread #2 | CEL Thread #3 | CEL Thread #4 | CEL Thread #5

Please post the following if you are experiencing the CEL/idle issue:
username, model, mileage of occurrence, last six of VIN (use XX for last two), status of repair [3 weeks - repaired, in shop, etc.], location [state, country, etc.]

SALES VOLUME
Total Scion FR-S sales from launch including October 2012 = 8572
Total Subaru BRZ sales from launch including October 2012 = 3120
FR-S October Sales = 1107
BRZ October Sales = 402
FR-S September sales = 1133
BRZ September sales = 508
FR-S August sales = 1913
BRZ August sales = 623
FR-S July sales = 1649
FR-S June sales = 2684

LIST OF AFFECTED VEHICLES
1. eurospeed, FR-S, 140 mi, 7075XX, 2 weeks - repaired, CT
2. TeamSweet86, BRZ, 20 mi, 6027XX, 6 weeks - repaired (3 ECUs), CA
3. danthedirt, FR-S, 2000 mi, 1 week - repaired, CA
4. Hammer, BRZ, 6026XX, CA
5. LaserMon, FR-S, 22 km, Canada
6. Vracer111, FR-S, 1100 mi, self reset CEL - clear since 1100 mi, TX
7. benzaholic, FR-S, 700 mi, 7067XX, 3 weeks - repaired, TX
8. Mr.Roboto, FR-S, 30 mi, 4 weeks - repaired, CA
9. Yruyur, FR-S, 5700 mi, repaired, AZ
10. alrashwa, FR-S, 300 mi, 7073XX, 4 weeks - repaired, WA
11. tintumz22, FR-S, 10 mi, 1 week - repaired, CA
12. Scooby_South, BRZ, WI
13. soconfoozed, BRZ, 3500 mi, 601XXX, 7 weeks 1st repair - back in shop, CA
14. oxygen, FR-S, 2700 mi, 7008XX, NE
15. siXXtoes, FR-S, 7066XX, 1 week - repaired, SD
16. Shizzaw, FR-S, 200 mi, catastrophic engine failure, CA
17. QFry, FR-S, 230 mi, self reset CEL - clear since 1130 mi, CO
18. amox, FR-S, 240 mi, CA
19. Vonsamhain, FR-S, 250 mi, 7053XX, repaired, CA
20. 01s0uljah, BRZ, 40 km, 5.5 weeks - repaired, Canada
21. STEVEOSTI, BRZ, 500 km, 6027XX, in shop, Canada
22. ShadowSeraph, FR-S, 1000 mi, WI
23. whiteout_fr-s, FR-S, 25 mi, vehicle replaced - catastrophic engine failure, MA
24. ubersoph, BRZ, WI
25. Stu_L_Tissimus, BRZ, NY
26. mark7s4, FR-S, FL
27. Tricky1980, FR-S, 76 mi, 7077XX, 3 weeks 1st repair - back in shop (2 ECUs), IA
28. Z06tofrs, FR-S, 400 mi, 7067XX, in shop - multiple repair attempts, FL
29. number1Tango, FR-S, 63 mi, 7075XX, in shop - multiple repair attempts, CA
30. egraphic, FR-S, 520 mi, 7077XX, vehicle replaced - not repaireable within acceptable time limits, CA
31. whtchocla7e, FR-S, 8 mi, 3.5 weeks - repaired, CT
32. bazi, FR-S, 25 mi, 7077XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, NC
33. choi0706, BRZ, 200 mi, 6027XX, 4 weeks - repaired (2 ECUs), TX
34. TurnOne, FR-S, 335 mi, 7079XX, vehicle replaced - catastrophic engine failure, OH
35. thejevans, FR-S, in shop, MD
36. DarkSunrise, FR-S, 120 mi, repaired, VA
37. White13frs, FR-S, 1100 mi, 7077XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, TX
38. iheartartoo, FR-S, 110 mi, 7071XX, in shop, USA
39. Christina_Marie, FR-S, 40 mi, 7073XX, 3 weeks - repaired, MA
40. 2000blk, FR-S, 100 mi, 7079XX, in shop, MI
41. gdi2290, BRZ, 717 mi, 6027XX, in shop - multiple repair attempts, CA
42. FLASCH, FR-S, 400 mi, 7078XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, CA
43. ninetysixzee, FR-S, 2000 mi, 7026XX, repaired, CA
44. governor, FR-S, 2069 km, 6 weeks - repaired, Canada
45. speedy_racer, FR-S, 335 mi, 6 weeks - repaired, NC
46. SubieNate, FR-S, 100 mi, in shop, CA
47. FBaxteR-S, FR-S, 30 km, Canada
48. elchupanebre, BRZ, 470 mi, 6025XX, vehicle replaced - engine not repairable, UT
49. griffunitt, FR-S, 150 mi, 7088XX, 3 weeks - repaired, WI
50. TemeCal, FR-S, 425 mi, 7088XX, 5 weeks - repaired (3 ECUs), CA
51. twinturba, FR-S, 1510 miles, 7059XX, CA
52. OmarGC, FR-S, 420mi, 7079XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, MO
53. regal, FR-S, 20 mi, 7074XX, PA
54. pituala, FR-S, 900 mi, 7073XX, 10.5 weeks - repaired, FL
55. KingRohan, BRZ, 800 km, 6026XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, Canada
56. CharlieChaos, FR-S, 1843 mi, 3 weeks - repaired, RI
57. Ahz, FR-S, 2100 km, 7076XX, Canada
58. 714FR-s_guy, FR-S, 1500 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, CA
59. michaelshull, FR-S, 4500 mi, 7037XX, in shop - multiple repair attempts, CA
60. Darweeezy, FR-S, 1200 mi, 7077XX, 3 weeks - repaired, CA
61. Ridenslide, FR-S, 10 mi, not purchased, NM
62. 86'ing, FR-S, 865 mi, in shop, LA
63. invaliduser, FR-S, 9 mi, 1.5 weeks - repaired, LA
64. Jar, FR-S. 2400 mi, 1 week 1st repair - back in shop (2 ECUs), AZ
65. @Art_Mighty, FR-S, 1600 mi, 7087XX, 4 weeks - repaired, IL
66. jesperswe, GT86, 0060XX, 2 weeks - repaired, Sweden
67. Chinadian, FR-S, 120 km, 4 weeks - repaired, Canada
68. FRSjeff, FR-S, 1900 mi, 7077XX, 1.5 weeks - repaired, CA
69. pixel67, FR-S, 17 mi, 7084XX, not purchased, GA
70. RedRydr, FR-S, 900 mi, 7079XX, 2 weeks - repaired, WA
71. Books, FR-S, 1400 mi, 1 week - repaired, MA
72. FT86Raven13, FR-S, 107 mi, in shop, CT
73. Ericbdrummin, FR-S, 2950 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, NV
74. UbSaMrC, FR-S, 2008 mi, in shop, HI
75. NeenaChrry, FR-S, 170 mi, 7079XX, in shop, VA
76. ddarko68, FR-S, 115 mi, 7072XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, VA
77. [not on forum], GT86, 1400 km, in shop, Sweden
78. JtoshiroW, BRZ, 2400 mi, 6029XX, in shop, HI
79. Teknian_Culprate13, FR-S, 2000 mi, in shop, CA
80. phat_86, FR-S, 350 mi, 7076XX, 2.5 weeks - repaired, IL
81. ftc~brz, BRZ, 70 mi, 6032XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, MD
82. Hawaiian, FR-S, 6325 mi, IL
83. illmatic2349, FR-S, CA
84. Alienate, FR-S, 530 mi, 7092XX, 3 weeks - repaired, NV
85. rapidcars, BRZ, 850 mi, 6029XX, engine replaced - catastrophic engine failure, NY
86. _F-R-S_, FR-S, 2700 mi, MD
87. BORGSRT, FR-S, 500 mi, vehicle caught on fire, TN
88. Sargy, FR-S, 2700 mi, 7077XX, 4 weeks - repaired, VA
89. xomp, FR-S, 2602 mi, 7065XX, 2.5 weeks - repaired, CA
90. samfrs, FR-S, 42 miles, 7076XX, 2.5 weeks - repaired, NJ
91. FRS-ti, FR-S, in shop, OH
92. TheZombi, BRZ, 500 km, in shop, Canada
93. mlrsguy1982, BRZ, 1300 mi, vehicle replaced - additional damage caused, CA
94. nutzy, BRZ, 1700 mi, in shop - engine replaced - catastrophic engine failure, MN
95. slideways, FR-S, 1250 miles, 7081XX, in shop, CA
96. miss_paula, FR-S, 1000 mi, in shop, CA
97. HATED1, FR-S, 2545 mi, 5 weeks - repaired, WA
98. Econn80, FR-S, 2 weeks - repaired, TX
99. schmickle, BRZ, vehicle replaced - engine not repairable, CA
100. Goodguy889, FR-S, 2500 mi, 7085XX, 3 weeks 1st repair - back in shop (2 ECUs), OR
101. Tengu, FR-S, 6479 mi, 7024XX, in shop, CA
102. Dezoris, FR-S, 1076 mi, 7053XX, IL
103. Wcmarshall, FR-S, 1800 mi, 7078XX, 5 weeks - repaired, TX
104. DrewZ926, FR-S, 1800 mi, 7074XX, TN
105. Mrc@ptuning, FR-S, 460 mi, in shop, VA
106. Aesthetics, FR-S, 3044 km, in shop, Canada
107. kreisinger87, FR-S, 1100 mi, 1 week - repaired, NV
108. dawnst3ar, FR-S, 2940 mi, 7080XX, 4 weeks - repaired, TX
109. AceNiNe, FR-S, 1500 mi, 7079XX, 2 weeks - repaired, NY
110. Oski, BRZ, 1025 mi, 6026XX, 4.5 weeks - repaired, CA
111. Those_Meddling_Kids, BRZ, 2025 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, CO
112. asloned, FR-S, 1988 mi, in shop, AZ
113. timotale, BRZ, 6026XX, 2.5 weeks - repaired, CA
114. boonFRS, FR-S, 2600 mi, 1 week - repaired, CA
115. eyebone, FR-S, 4012 mi, 7069XX, 3 weeks - repaired, CA
116. Rob_g, FR-S, 4500 km, 1.5 weeks - repaired, Canada
117. Gavin_Albright, FR-S, in shop, NC
118. tbertran, BRZ, 2560 mi, 6027XX, 1 week - repaired, CA
119. Le86, FR-S, 988 mi, 7094XX, 4 weeks - repaired, WA
120. brianlo622, FR-S, 1300 mi, 7096XX, 3 weeks - repaired, CA
121. neurokinetik, FR-S, 1300 mi, 7074XX, 1 week - repaired, NY
122. Boost_Junkie, BRZ, 1115 mi, 1 week - repaired, FL
123. JiB, GT86, 3000 km, Australia
124. felisa, BRZ, in shop, Canada
125. Plxdjake89, FR-S, 4495 mi, 3 weeks - repaired, CA
126. beardy, GT86, 1600 km, in shop, Sweden
127. Mark_Slide_Squad, FR-S, 2000 mi, 7082XX, 1 week - repaired, CA
128. P_Nasty, FR-S, 500 mi, in shop, FL
129. cyrus, FR-S, 540 mi, 7091XX, 5 weeks - repaired, NC
130. nomuken, GT86, 800 km, 0577XX, in shop, Luxembourg
131. hands0me, GT86, 106 km, in shop, Malaysia
132. howiedoit, FR-S, 4100 mi, 7066XX, in shop, CA
133. F1shTa1|5, FR-S, 1300 mi, 7008XX, self reset CEL - clear since 7000 mi, PA
134. Concept-Three-LED's, FR-S, 3144 mi, 3.5 weeks - repaired, NV
135. kaitak98, BRZ, 2200 mi, 6028XX, in shop, USA
136. FA20Bandit, FR-S, 3200 mi, 7082XX, in shop, CA
137. DieselxIndustry, FR-S, 800 mi, 7095XX, 1 week - repaired, IL
138. mx5_2nr, FR-S, 1710 mi, 7085XX, in shop, TX
139. alexmotrix, FR-S, 7500 km, 4 weeks - repaired, Canada
140. IceCreamMan, FR-S, 7500 mi, 7004XX, 2 weeks - repaired, FL
141. brichard0625, FR-S, 3600 mi, NY
142. ap5512, BRZ, 4917 mi, 6010XX, VA
143. wotter, GT86, 1830 km, 5388XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, Belgium
144. darnbry, FR-S, 0.5 weeks - repaired, KS
145. KrzysFR, GT86, 1400 km, 0067XX, 5 weeks - repaired, France
146. Kieranz, BRZ, 1950 mi, 6028XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, NJ
147. rthaanum, FR-S, 800 mi, 1.5 weeks - repaired, WA
148. samseed, BRZ, CA
149. Callahan, BRZ, 1300 mi, 6027XX, in shop, NC
150. SDIAZ, FR-S, 1242 mi, in shop, NJ
151. ScionFR-S, FR-S, 2400 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, NY
152. Scout27rgr, FR-S, 1326 mi, 7079XX, in shop, TX
153. ipothas, FR-S, 120 mi, in shop, MO
154. killercl0wnfish, FR-S, 3800 mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, KY
155. silverbullet, BRZ, 2200 mi, 6035XX, 1 week - repaired, NH
156. buzzman, FR-S, 2400 mi, in shop, OK
157. traybelles, GT86, 0040XX, repaired, Australia
158. Graksthar. FR-S, 2400 mi, in shop, VA
159. mhigham, FR-S, 980 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, MI
160. v3rgil, GT86, 300 km, repaired, South Africa
161. ron_jeremy, FR-S, 40 mi, 7093XX, in shop, KS
162. M3power326, FR-S, 3208 mi, 7084XX, IL
163. MikesFRS, FR-S, 5023 mi, 7080XX, 1 week - repaired, CA
164. beardy, GT86, 987 mi, 4 weeks - repaired, Sweden
165. jmelgar23, BRZ, 2434 mi, 6029XX, in shop, NY
166. WhiteFR-S, BRZ, 987 mi, PA
167. forwallblakmail, BRZ, 5700 mi, 6017XX, PA
168. Hachi-roku, FR-S, 1893 mi, in shop, TX
169. mbaexec, FR-S, 260 mi, 7079XX , in shop, MD
170. raul, FR-S, 3893 mi, 7080XX, 1 week - repaired, FL
171. Space_Boy_Matt, BRZ, 2050 mi, 6033XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, CA
172. FoolCyclist, BRZ, 3630 mi, 6003XX, in shop, FL
173. BrewCity-FR-S, FR-S, 1523 mi, 7073XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, WI
174. SpeedmasterBRZ, BRZ, 1500 mi, 602XXX, 3 weeks - repaired, UT
175. Svx, BRZ, 1200 mi, 6035XX, 1.5 weeks - repaired, VA
176. rhysmcinerney, GT86, 1200 km, 0063XX, Australia
177. artizhay, FR-S, 3000 mi, TX
178. Jase, GT86, Australia
179. EJ33177, FR-S, 7313 mi, 7075XX, 4.5 weeks - repaired (2 ECUs), MD
180. nashsnazzy, FR-S, 2600 mi, 7076XX, in shop, TN
181. crazyfrenchbiker, FR-S, 2600 mi, 7086XX, in shop, NE
182. Curt_Aigner, FR-S, 4015 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, IL
183. WheelDude.com, FR-S, 2800 mi, in shop, CA
184. Sir_Alex, FR-S, VA
185. BCooke, BRZ, in shop, TX
186. TheSt|G, BRZ, 1050 mi, 6034XX, PA
187. AVOturboworld, FR-S, 2700 mi, WA
188. SocalBurt, FR-S, 4000 mi, in shop, CA
189. Fizzle, FR-S, 700 mi, 2.5 weeks - repaired, CA
190. Joesuede, FR-S, CA
191. Little_Red_FR-S, FR-S, 2400 mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, NJ
192. AX_FRS, FR-S, 0.5 weeks - repaired, TX
193. ironchef, FR-S, 2300 mi, 6 weeks - repaired, GA
194. staycrushing, FR-S, CA
195. IShouldStudy, FR-S, repaired, CA
196. industrial, BRZ, 5500 mi, 6003XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, MA
197. diirk, BRZ, 3437 mi, 6032XX, CA
198. knewsom32, FR-S, TX
199. JSUB, BRZ, 1246 km, 0.5 weeks - repaired, Canada
200. BR_Zenith, BRZ, 820 mi, 6030XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, ME
201. GregV, BRZ, 3300 mi, 6020XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, NJ
202. tvpr, FR-S, 4330 mi, 7084XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, PA
203. arucard77, FR-S, 3000 mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, FL
204. Red_Shift, BRZ, 1500 mi, 6032XX, 2 weeks - repaired, PA
205. FT86Dubai, GT86, 1100 km, 2 weeks - repaired, UAE
206. Squishy, BRZ, 4715 mi, 6029XX, TX
207. E_br4ke, FRS, 2860 mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, TX
208. ToyToyTT, GT86, repaired, Philippines
209. tuckdaddy, FR-S, 5800 mi, 4 weeks - repaired, TX
210. ebphoto, FR-S, 7700mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, FL
211. TurnOne (2nd car), BRZ, 6500 mi, 6034XX, OH
212. fender2819, FR-S, 0.5 weeks - repaired, PA
213. boucher, FR-S, 5984 mi, 7088XX, in shop, LA
214. skillcraft, FR-S, 2700 mi, 7074XX, in shop, CA
215. acro, GT86, 1200 km, 0.5 weeks - repaired
216. mike_ander, FR-S, 2631 mi, 7088XX, 1 week - repaired, TN
217. luscious, FR-S, 8100 mi, CA
218. Realm, FR-S, 6100 mi, MS
219. kroarke, BRZ, 8467 mi, 6009XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, FL
220. Adeets, BRZ, 7300 mi, 6031XX, 1 week - repaired, PA
221. gara3een, GT86, Jordan
222. royer23, FR-S, 2392 mi, repaired, CA
223. themanatuf, FR-S, 8415 mi, 7089XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, FL
224. DTM, FR-S, 4000 mi, 7092XX, 1 day - repaired, VA
225. MVJ1975, FR-S, 9100 mi, 7012XX, 2 weeks - repaired, VA
226. xfire0384, FR-S, 5400 mi, 7078XX, 1 day - repaired, CA
227. jupillam, FR-S, in shop, CA
228. typeray12, BRZ, 300 mi, 6029XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, CA
229. firehawk, GT86, 4043 km, 0068XX, 1 week - repaired, Finland
230. JDMrolla, FR-S, in shop, VA
231. mvpstigma, FR-S, 2700 mi, 7080XX, in shop, VA
232. rawr, FR-S, 10100 mi, 7070XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, CA
233. lowellm, BRZ, 1200 mi, 6032XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, WA
234. WS12888, FR-S, 11000 km, 7067XX, 2 weeks - repaired, Canada
235. Touge_ninja, FR-S, 8780 mi, WA
236. aghuman, FR-S, 900 km, Canada
237. coastermikey, BRZ, 17452 mi, in shop - catastrophic engine failure,MD
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239.
240.

alrashwa · 08-24-2012, 08:32 PM

Mine's on the 3rd week in the shop as well. Parts are on back-order. VVTi Cam gear and Oil control valve are what they claimed to be replacing. Waiting on gaskets which are on back-order, apparently.

Awesome idea, I think this is a good candidate to be stickied. I have a feeling this is a lot more prevalent than Scion/Subaru would like to admit.

Subie · 08-24-2012, 09:26 PM

The last six of the VIN is the unique vehicle identifier, not the last four. If you're going to have posters blank out the last two digits, you should ask for the last six digits to track production dates accurately.

Zadkiel · 08-24-2012, 09:43 PM

It's never good when there's no rhyme or reason to the VINs. That usually means it's an engineering problem, right?

Yruyur · 08-24-2012, 09:47 PM

You could create a google docs form like the ended up doing for the ecu flash group buy. Have all the questions and let everyone fill it out for you. Great idea and good scrubbing of the threads!

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Subie · 08-24-2012, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zadkiel

It's never good when there's no rhyme or reason to the VINs. That usually means it's an engineering problem, right?

Engineering or unidentified production issue.

White64Goat · 08-25-2012, 07:43 PM

Just an FYI. FR-S last 6 start with 70, BRZ starts with 60, so if you posted what type of car you have, the last 4 will suffice.

rice_classic · 08-25-2012, 08:46 PM

30 as of Saturday the 25th, wow.

I'm surprised there are that many. What has been the fix for these? Is it the ECU or the cam sensors or something else?

eurospeed · 08-26-2012, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rice_classic

30 as of Saturday the 25th, wow.

I'm surprised there are that many. What has been the fix for these? Is it the ECU or the cam sensors or something else?

Adjusted to 29 since I had a duplicate entry, but still high considering the small percentage of owners on this forum. The fix has either been the VVT cam sprocket replacement, misc. sensors/valve associated with the VVT system, a new ECU, or a combination of those parts. Toyota and Subaru have not been consistent with the replacement of parts to date but a majority have been getting the VVT cam sprocket.

egraphic · 08-27-2012, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurospeed

Folks, my goal is document the number of owners, their mileage, status of their cars along with other pertinent info. I was planning on doing this privately in Excel, but would rather keep a running list in this thread. I feel it would be a good snapshot to help understand the severity and broad reach of this problem.

POSTING RULES
While this idle issue may manifest itself as an initial dip, please only add your name if you have experienced a combination of the check engine light (CEL) and slip light (SL) in addition to the RPM hunting at idle (often severe shaking and stalling). The code your ECU should have stored is P0019 (also optional P0017, P0018).

Please post the following:
username, FR-S or BRZ, mileage of occurrence, last six of VIN (use XX for last two), duration of repair [3 weeks, in shop, etc.], location [state, country, etc.], other comments [repeat occurrence, items replaced, etc.]

Please let me know if you would like to see additional information. Also, please keep the postings on topic and for the list only. The "Idle Issue" thread is good for general discussion. Thanks everyone.

Note, if you want your name removed, let me know.

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1. eurospeed, FR-S, 140 mi, 7075XX, in shop, CT
2. primo, BRZ, 20 mi, 6027XX, in shop, CA
3. danthedirt, FR-S, 2000 mi, 1 week - repaired, CA
4. Hammer, BRZ, 6026XX, CA
5. LaserMon, FR-S, 22 km, Canada
6. Vracer111, FR-S, TX
7. benzaholic, FR-S, 700 mi, TX
8. Mr.Roboto, FR-S, 30 mi, CA
9. Yruyur, FR-S, 5700 mi, AZ
10. alrashwa, FR-S, 300 mi, 7073XX, in shop, WA
11. tintumz22, FR-S, 10 mi, repaired, CA
12. Scooby_South, BRZ, WI
13. soconfoozed, BRZ, 3500 mi, in shop, CA
14. oxygen, FR-S, 2700 mi, 7008XX, NE
15. siXXtoes, FR-S, 7066XX, SD
16. Shizzaw, FR-S, 200 mi, in shop, CA
17. QFry, FR-S, 230 mi, CO
18. amox, FR-S, 240 mi, CA
19. Vonsamhain, CA
20. 01s0uljah, BRZ, 40 km, Canada
21. STEVEOSTI, BRZ, Canada
22. ShadowSeraph, FR-S, 1000 mi, WI
23. whiteout_fr-s, FR-S, 25 mi, catastrophic engine failure, MA
24. ubersoph, BRZ, WI
25. Stu_L_Tissimus, BRZ, NY
26. mark7s4, FR-S, FL
27. Tricky1980, FR-S, 76 mi, 7077XX, IA
28. Z06tofrs, FR-S, 400 mi, 7067XX, FL
29. number1Tango, FR-S, 63 mi, 7075XX, CA
30. egraphic, FR-S, 520 mi, 7077XX, CA, CEL/SEL/RPM hunting, in shop one week as of today - camshaft bearing known to have been replaced, engineers from Toyota main office out twice last week, no ETA for completion
31.
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My addition:
egraphic, FR-S, 520 mi, 7077XX, CA, CEL/SEL/RPM hunting, in shop one week as of today - camshaft bearing known to have been replaced, engineers from Toyota main office out twice last week, no ETA for completion

whtchocla7e · 08-27-2012, 11:35 AM

My problems started as soon as I picked up my car on Tuesday of last week.
Around 8 miles on the clock when CEL/SL came on.
No doubt a shameful record..
Experienced idle dip, shudder, loss of power, near stalling, bogging down..

Just called the service dept. today and they are expecting the parts to come in on Wednesay (coming from New York).

They will be replacing a camshaft position sensor and another sensor. They told me the camshaft sensor is a larger, sealed unit. I don't know what that means but I guess it includes many parts. They said it's a pretty big job and that toyota is aware of the problem (obviously).

egraphic · 08-27-2012, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whtchocla7e

My problems started as soon as I picked up my car on Tuesday of last week.
Around 8 miles on the clock when CEL/SL came on.
No doubt a shameful record..

Just called the service dept. today and they are expecting the parts to come in on Wednesay.

They will be replacing a camshaft position sensor and another sensor. They told me the camshaft sensor is a larger, sealed unit. I don't know what that means but I guess it includes many parts. They said it's a pretty big job and that toyota is aware of the problem (obviously).

I honestly wouldn't drive the car any further than it takes you to deliver it to the dealership. Because of the number of reported incidents, I suspect that the only way you will be truly "in the queue" is if they take possession of the car and hand you keys to a loaner - the dealer has skin in the game at that point. More importantly, several of the posts here suggest that additional damage has occurred in some cases as the car continued to be driven.

Just my 2 cents...

Best of luck!

bazi · 08-27-2012, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurospeed

Folks, my goal is document the number of owners, their mileage, status of their cars along with other pertinent info. I was planning on doing this privately in Excel, but would rather keep a running list in this thread. I feel it would be a good snapshot to help understand the severity and broad reach of this problem.

POSTING RULES
While this idle issue may manifest itself as an initial dip, please only add your name if you have experienced a combination of the check engine light (CEL) and slip light (SL) in addition to the RPM hunting at idle (often severe shaking and stalling). The code your ECU should have stored is P0019 (also optional P0017, P0018).

Please post the following:
username, FR-S or BRZ, mileage of occurrence, last six of VIN (use XX for last two), duration of repair [3 weeks, in shop, etc.], location [state, country, etc.], other comments [repeat occurrence, items replaced, etc.]

Please let me know if you would like to see additional information. Also, please keep the postings on topic and for the list only. The "Idle Issue" thread is good for general discussion. Thanks everyone.

Note, if you want your name removed, let me know.

--------------------------

1. eurospeed, FR-S, 140 mi, 7075XX, in shop, CT
2. primo, BRZ, 20 mi, 6027XX, in shop, CA
3. danthedirt, FR-S, 2000 mi, 1 week - repaired, CA
4. Hammer, BRZ, 6026XX, CA
5. LaserMon, FR-S, 22 km, Canada
6. Vracer111, FR-S, TX
7. benzaholic, FR-S, 700 mi, TX
8. Mr.Roboto, FR-S, 30 mi, CA
9. Yruyur, FR-S, 5700 mi, AZ
10. alrashwa, FR-S, 300 mi, 7073XX, in shop, WA
11. tintumz22, FR-S, 10 mi, repaired, CA
12. Scooby_South, BRZ, WI
13. soconfoozed, BRZ, 3500 mi, in shop, CA
14. oxygen, FR-S, 2700 mi, 7008XX, NE
15. siXXtoes, FR-S, 7066XX, SD
16. Shizzaw, FR-S, 200 mi, in shop, CA
17. QFry, FR-S, 230 mi, CO
18. amox, FR-S, 240 mi, CA
19. Vonsamhain, CA
20. 01s0uljah, BRZ, 40 km, Canada
21. STEVEOSTI, BRZ, Canada
22. ShadowSeraph, FR-S, 1000 mi, WI
23. whiteout_fr-s, FR-S, 25 mi, catastrophic engine failure, MA
24. ubersoph, BRZ, WI
25. Stu_L_Tissimus, BRZ, NY
26. mark7s4, FR-S, FL
27. Tricky1980, FR-S, 76 mi, 7077XX, IA
28. Z06tofrs, FR-S, 400 mi, 7067XX, FL
29. number1Tango, FR-S, 63 mi, 7075XX, CA
30.
31.
32.

bazi, FR-S, 25mile, 7077xx, first day at the shop, NC, USA; CEL and SL came on, sputtering, crackling, dealer working on it.

jadewbj · 08-27-2012, 01:54 PM

This is much bigger than I expected. If there are this many here on the forum it makes me wonder how many there really are.

I hope my car is ok when it gets here on Friday.

choi0706 · 08-27-2012, 03:05 PM

choi0706, 6027xx, brz, 200mi, TX

tnt · 08-27-2012, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazi

bazi, FR-S, 25mile, 7077xx, first day at the shop, NC, USA; CEL and SL came on, sputtering, crackling, dealer working on it.

Originally Posted by eurospeed

Folks, my goal is document the number of owners, their mileage, status of their cars along with other pertinent info. I was planning on doing this privately in Excel, but would rather keep a running list in this thread. I feel it would be a good snapshot to help understand the severity and broad reach of this problem.

POSTING RULES
While this idle issue may manifest itself as an initial dip, please only add your name if you have experienced a combination of the check engine light (CEL) and slip light (SL) in addition to the RPM hunting at idle (often severe shaking and stalling). The code your ECU should have stored is P0019 (also optional P0017, P0018).

Please post the following:
username, FR-S or BRZ, mileage of occurrence, last six of VIN (use XX for last two), duration of repair [3 weeks, in shop, etc.], location [state, country, etc.], other comments [repeat occurrence, items replaced, etc.]

Please let me know if you would like to see additional information. Also, please keep the postings on topic and for the list only. The "Idle Issue" thread is good for general discussion. Thanks everyone.

Note, if you want your name removed, let me know.

--------------------------

1. eurospeed, FR-S, 140 mi, 7075XX, in shop, CT
2. primo, BRZ, 20 mi, 6027XX, in shop, CA
3. danthedirt, FR-S, 2000 mi, 1 week - repaired, CA
4. Hammer, BRZ, 6026XX, CA
5. LaserMon, FR-S, 22 km, Canada
6. Vracer111, FR-S, TX
7. benzaholic, FR-S, 700 mi, TX
8. Mr.Roboto, FR-S, 30 mi, CA
9. Yruyur, FR-S, 5700 mi, AZ
10. alrashwa, FR-S, 300 mi, 7073XX, in shop, WA
11. tintumz22, FR-S, 10 mi, repaired, CA
12. Scooby_South, BRZ, WI
13. soconfoozed, BRZ, 3500 mi, in shop, CA
14. oxygen, FR-S, 2700 mi, 7008XX, NE
15. siXXtoes, FR-S, 7066XX, SD
16. Shizzaw, FR-S, 200 mi, in shop, CA
17. QFry, FR-S, 230 mi, CO
18. amox, FR-S, 240 mi, CA
19. Vonsamhain, CA
20. 01s0uljah, BRZ, 40 km, Canada
21. STEVEOSTI, BRZ, Canada
22. ShadowSeraph, FR-S, 1000 mi, WI
23. whiteout_fr-s, FR-S, 25 mi, catastrophic engine failure, MA
24. ubersoph, BRZ, WI
25. Stu_L_Tissimus, BRZ, NY
26. mark7s4, FR-S, FL
27. Tricky1980, FR-S, 76 mi, 7077XX, IA
28. Z06tofrs, FR-S, 400 mi, 7067XX, FL
29. number1Tango, FR-S, 63 mi, 7075XX, CA
30.
31.
32.

You should give this feedback to toyota to look into it

choi0706 · 08-27-2012, 09:37 PM

My code is p0019.. Idle is hunting, if any one wants to see a video let me know..

Lonewolf · 08-27-2012, 09:56 PM

There is a chance that a higher-up from Toyota or Subaru has seen this thread already, but Moto is someone that can probably ensure that someone with some authority can see it...might want to pm him

siXXtoes · 08-28-2012, 12:28 AM

update on mine- one week in the shop, change cam sensor and ecu at 200 miles, no issues now at 1100 miles

kndonlee · 08-28-2012, 06:24 AM

Glancing at the VINs, they seem to be in the 2600-2700s for the BRZs and the 7000s for the FRSs. Though I see that single 800ish FRS entry.

TurnOne · 08-28-2012, 12:27 PM

Add me to the list. Problem started with about 250 miles. Dropped at dealer today with 335 miles on it. Reset the light twice, came back within a few miles. One time both lights were illuminated and the 'traction' light went out for a few seconds, then came back on. CEL was on the whole time. FR-S VIN#7969.

Chris

alrashwa · 08-28-2012, 06:33 PM

Looks like we have a couple cases of the issue being repaired and failing again post-repair. I'm asking soconfoozed and Hammer for more details on their last status updates. Already printing out the Washington State lemon laws for mine. I think I'm done with this car.

08-27-2012, 11:35 AM	#11
whtchocla7e Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Hot Lava FR-S (stock for now) Location: CT Posts: 332 Thanks: 14 Thanked 185 Times in 64 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My problems started as soon as I picked up my car on Tuesday of last week. Around 8 miles on the clock when CEL/SL came on. No doubt a shameful record.. Experienced idle dip, shudder, loss of power, near stalling, bogging down.. Just called the service dept. today and they are expecting the parts to come in on Wednesay (coming from New York). They will be replacing a camshaft position sensor and another sensor. They told me the camshaft sensor is a larger, sealed unit. I don't know what that means but I guess it includes many parts. They said it's a pretty big job and that toyota is aware of the problem (obviously). __________________ Message sent from the Future! Last edited by whtchocla7e; 08-27-2012 at 01:05 PM.

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eurospeed Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: CT Posts: 61 Thanks: 417 Thanked 90 Times in 18 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Unofficial - CEL/SL/Idle Issue List for FR-S/BRZ Owners Folks, my goal is to document the number of owners, their mileage, status of their cars along with other pertinent info. I feel it will be a good snapshot to help understand the severity and broad reach of this problem. BACKGROUND While this idle issue may manifest itself as an initial dip, please only add your name if you have experienced a combination of the check engine light (CEL) and slip light (SL) in addition to the RPM hunting at idle (often severe shaking and stalling). The code your engine control unit (ECU) should have stored is P0019 (also optional P0017, P0018 or related cam codes). Toyota and Subaru have developed various solutions for this issue which have not been consistent and may require multiple repairs or even vehicle replacement due to limited success. Repairs could include a combination of the following: replacing cam sprocket assemblies, replacing oil control valves, reflashing and/or replacing the ECU. To expedite service and express your concerns, be sure to contact the corporate customer service numbers below. PHONE NUMBERS Scion Customer Service: 866-707-2466 Subaru Customer Service: 800-782-2783 Automotive Magazines/Websites Reporting the Issue Automobile Magazine (2012.October) Automotive News (2012.October.03) AUTOWEEK (2012.October.04) \| AUTOWEEK Video (2012.October.05) Motor Trend (2012.October.04) autoblog (2012.October.05) Jalopnik (2012.October.03) Torque News (2012.October.04) egmCarTech (2012.October.07) Forums and Other Related Threads Toyota UK Statement (states 4% of vehicles are affected) BRZ CEL/Idle Video \| FR-S CEL/Idle Video Early FR-S Issue and Engine Failure \| Another FR-S Engine Failure \| FR-S on Fire Idle Issues Thread \| RPM Fluctuation Thread \| Idle Issues in UK \| AVO CEL Thread CEL Thread #1 \| CEL Thread #2 \| CEL Thread #3 \| CEL Thread #4 \| CEL Thread #5 Please post the following if you are experiencing the CEL/idle issue: username, model, mileage of occurrence, last six of VIN (use XX for last two), status of repair [3 weeks - repaired, in shop, etc.], location [state, country, etc.] SALES VOLUME Total Scion FR-S sales from launch including October 2012 = 8572 Total Subaru BRZ sales from launch including October 2012 = 3120 FR-S October Sales = 1107 BRZ October Sales = 402 FR-S September sales = 1133 BRZ September sales = 508 FR-S August sales = 1913 BRZ August sales = 623 FR-S July sales = 1649 FR-S June sales = 2684 LIST OF AFFECTED VEHICLES 1. eurospeed, FR-S, 140 mi, 7075XX, 2 weeks - repaired, CT 2. TeamSweet86, BRZ, 20 mi, 6027XX, 6 weeks - repaired (3 ECUs), CA 3. danthedirt, FR-S, 2000 mi, 1 week - repaired, CA 4. Hammer, BRZ, 6026XX, CA 5. LaserMon, FR-S, 22 km, Canada 6. Vracer111, FR-S, 1100 mi, self reset CEL - clear since 1100 mi, TX 7. benzaholic, FR-S, 700 mi, 7067XX, 3 weeks - repaired, TX 8. Mr.Roboto, FR-S, 30 mi, 4 weeks - repaired, CA 9. Yruyur, FR-S, 5700 mi, repaired, AZ 10. alrashwa, FR-S, 300 mi, 7073XX, 4 weeks - repaired, WA 11. tintumz22, FR-S, 10 mi, 1 week - repaired, CA 12. Scooby_South, BRZ, WI 13. soconfoozed, BRZ, 3500 mi, 601XXX, 7 weeks 1st repair - back in shop, CA 14. oxygen, FR-S, 2700 mi, 7008XX, NE 15. siXXtoes, FR-S, 7066XX, 1 week - repaired, SD 16. Shizzaw, FR-S, 200 mi, catastrophic engine failure, CA 17. QFry, FR-S, 230 mi, self reset CEL - clear since 1130 mi, CO 18. amox, FR-S, 240 mi, CA 19. Vonsamhain, FR-S, 250 mi, 7053XX, repaired, CA 20. 01s0uljah, BRZ, 40 km, 5.5 weeks - repaired, Canada 21. STEVEOSTI, BRZ, 500 km, 6027XX, in shop, Canada 22. ShadowSeraph, FR-S, 1000 mi, WI 23. whiteout_fr-s, FR-S, 25 mi, vehicle replaced - catastrophic engine failure, MA 24. ubersoph, BRZ, WI 25. Stu_L_Tissimus, BRZ, NY 26. mark7s4, FR-S, FL 27. Tricky1980, FR-S, 76 mi, 7077XX, 3 weeks 1st repair - back in shop (2 ECUs), IA 28. Z06tofrs, FR-S, 400 mi, 7067XX, in shop - multiple repair attempts, FL 29. number1Tango, FR-S, 63 mi, 7075XX, in shop - multiple repair attempts, CA 30. egraphic, FR-S, 520 mi, 7077XX, vehicle replaced - not repaireable within acceptable time limits, CA 31. whtchocla7e, FR-S, 8 mi, 3.5 weeks - repaired, CT 32. bazi, FR-S, 25 mi, 7077XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, NC 33. choi0706, BRZ, 200 mi, 6027XX, 4 weeks - repaired (2 ECUs), TX 34. TurnOne, FR-S, 335 mi, 7079XX, vehicle replaced - catastrophic engine failure, OH 35. thejevans, FR-S, in shop, MD 36. DarkSunrise, FR-S, 120 mi, repaired, VA 37. White13frs, FR-S, 1100 mi, 7077XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, TX 38. iheartartoo, FR-S, 110 mi, 7071XX, in shop, USA 39. Christina_Marie, FR-S, 40 mi, 7073XX, 3 weeks - repaired, MA 40. 2000blk, FR-S, 100 mi, 7079XX, in shop, MI 41. gdi2290, BRZ, 717 mi, 6027XX, in shop - multiple repair attempts, CA 42. FLASCH, FR-S, 400 mi, 7078XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, CA 43. ninetysixzee, FR-S, 2000 mi, 7026XX, repaired, CA 44. governor, FR-S, 2069 km, 6 weeks - repaired, Canada 45. speedy_racer, FR-S, 335 mi, 6 weeks - repaired, NC 46. SubieNate, FR-S, 100 mi, in shop, CA 47. FBaxteR-S, FR-S, 30 km, Canada 48. elchupanebre, BRZ, 470 mi, 6025XX, vehicle replaced - engine not repairable, UT 49. griffunitt, FR-S, 150 mi, 7088XX, 3 weeks - repaired, WI 50. TemeCal, FR-S, 425 mi, 7088XX, 5 weeks - repaired (3 ECUs), CA 51. twinturba, FR-S, 1510 miles, 7059XX, CA 52. OmarGC, FR-S, 420mi, 7079XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, MO 53. regal, FR-S, 20 mi, 7074XX, PA 54. pituala, FR-S, 900 mi, 7073XX, 10.5 weeks - repaired, FL 55. KingRohan, BRZ, 800 km, 6026XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, Canada 56. CharlieChaos, FR-S, 1843 mi, 3 weeks - repaired, RI 57. Ahz, FR-S, 2100 km, 7076XX, Canada 58. 714FR-s_guy, FR-S, 1500 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, CA 59. michaelshull, FR-S, 4500 mi, 7037XX, in shop - multiple repair attempts, CA 60. Darweeezy, FR-S, 1200 mi, 7077XX, 3 weeks - repaired, CA 61. Ridenslide, FR-S, 10 mi, not purchased, NM 62. 86'ing, FR-S, 865 mi, in shop, LA 63. invaliduser, FR-S, 9 mi, 1.5 weeks - repaired, LA 64. Jar, FR-S. 2400 mi, 1 week 1st repair - back in shop (2 ECUs), AZ 65. @Art_Mighty, FR-S, 1600 mi, 7087XX, 4 weeks - repaired, IL 66. jesperswe, GT86, 0060XX, 2 weeks - repaired, Sweden 67. Chinadian, FR-S, 120 km, 4 weeks - repaired, Canada 68. FRSjeff, FR-S, 1900 mi, 7077XX, 1.5 weeks - repaired, CA 69. pixel67, FR-S, 17 mi, 7084XX, not purchased, GA 70. RedRydr, FR-S, 900 mi, 7079XX, 2 weeks - repaired, WA 71. Books, FR-S, 1400 mi, 1 week - repaired, MA 72. FT86Raven13, FR-S, 107 mi, in shop, CT 73. Ericbdrummin, FR-S, 2950 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, NV 74. UbSaMrC, FR-S, 2008 mi, in shop, HI 75. NeenaChrry, FR-S, 170 mi, 7079XX, in shop, VA 76. ddarko68, FR-S, 115 mi, 7072XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, VA 77. [not on forum], GT86, 1400 km, in shop, Sweden 78. JtoshiroW, BRZ, 2400 mi, 6029XX, in shop, HI 79. Teknian_Culprate13, FR-S, 2000 mi, in shop, CA 80. phat_86, FR-S, 350 mi, 7076XX, 2.5 weeks - repaired, IL 81. ftc~brz, BRZ, 70 mi, 6032XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, MD 82. Hawaiian, FR-S, 6325 mi, IL 83. illmatic2349, FR-S, CA 84. Alienate, FR-S, 530 mi, 7092XX, 3 weeks - repaired, NV 85. rapidcars, BRZ, 850 mi, 6029XX, engine replaced - catastrophic engine failure, NY 86. _F-R-S_, FR-S, 2700 mi, MD 87. BORGSRT, FR-S, 500 mi, vehicle caught on fire, TN 88. Sargy, FR-S, 2700 mi, 7077XX, 4 weeks - repaired, VA 89. xomp, FR-S, 2602 mi, 7065XX, 2.5 weeks - repaired, CA 90. samfrs, FR-S, 42 miles, 7076XX, 2.5 weeks - repaired, NJ 91. FRS-ti, FR-S, in shop, OH 92. TheZombi, BRZ, 500 km, in shop, Canada 93. mlrsguy1982, BRZ, 1300 mi, vehicle replaced - additional damage caused, CA 94. nutzy, BRZ, 1700 mi, in shop - engine replaced - catastrophic engine failure, MN 95. slideways, FR-S, 1250 miles, 7081XX, in shop, CA 96. miss_paula, FR-S, 1000 mi, in shop, CA 97. HATED1, FR-S, 2545 mi, 5 weeks - repaired, WA 98. Econn80, FR-S, 2 weeks - repaired, TX 99. schmickle, BRZ, vehicle replaced - engine not repairable, CA 100. Goodguy889, FR-S, 2500 mi, 7085XX, 3 weeks 1st repair - back in shop (2 ECUs), OR 101. Tengu, FR-S, 6479 mi, 7024XX, in shop, CA 102. Dezoris, FR-S, 1076 mi, 7053XX, IL 103. Wcmarshall, FR-S, 1800 mi, 7078XX, 5 weeks - repaired, TX 104. DrewZ926, FR-S, 1800 mi, 7074XX, TN 105. Mrc@ptuning, FR-S, 460 mi, in shop, VA 106. Aesthetics, FR-S, 3044 km, in shop, Canada 107. kreisinger87, FR-S, 1100 mi, 1 week - repaired, NV 108. dawnst3ar, FR-S, 2940 mi, 7080XX, 4 weeks - repaired, TX 109. AceNiNe, FR-S, 1500 mi, 7079XX, 2 weeks - repaired, NY 110. Oski, BRZ, 1025 mi, 6026XX, 4.5 weeks - repaired, CA 111. Those_Meddling_Kids, BRZ, 2025 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, CO 112. asloned, FR-S, 1988 mi, in shop, AZ 113. timotale, BRZ, 6026XX, 2.5 weeks - repaired, CA 114. boonFRS, FR-S, 2600 mi, 1 week - repaired, CA 115. eyebone, FR-S, 4012 mi, 7069XX, 3 weeks - repaired, CA 116. Rob_g, FR-S, 4500 km, 1.5 weeks - repaired, Canada 117. Gavin_Albright, FR-S, in shop, NC 118. tbertran, BRZ, 2560 mi, 6027XX, 1 week - repaired, CA 119. Le86, FR-S, 988 mi, 7094XX, 4 weeks - repaired, WA 120. brianlo622, FR-S, 1300 mi, 7096XX, 3 weeks - repaired, CA 121. neurokinetik, FR-S, 1300 mi, 7074XX, 1 week - repaired, NY 122. Boost_Junkie, BRZ, 1115 mi, 1 week - repaired, FL 123. JiB, GT86, 3000 km, Australia 124. felisa, BRZ, in shop, Canada 125. Plxdjake89, FR-S, 4495 mi, 3 weeks - repaired, CA 126. beardy, GT86, 1600 km, in shop, Sweden 127. Mark_Slide_Squad, FR-S, 2000 mi, 7082XX, 1 week - repaired, CA 128. P_Nasty, FR-S, 500 mi, in shop, FL 129. cyrus, FR-S, 540 mi, 7091XX, 5 weeks - repaired, NC 130. nomuken, GT86, 800 km, 0577XX, in shop, Luxembourg 131. hands0me, GT86, 106 km, in shop, Malaysia 132. howiedoit, FR-S, 4100 mi, 7066XX, in shop, CA 133. F1shTa1\|5, FR-S, 1300 mi, 7008XX, self reset CEL - clear since 7000 mi, PA 134. Concept-Three-LED's, FR-S, 3144 mi, 3.5 weeks - repaired, NV 135. kaitak98, BRZ, 2200 mi, 6028XX, in shop, USA 136. FA20Bandit, FR-S, 3200 mi, 7082XX, in shop, CA 137. DieselxIndustry, FR-S, 800 mi, 7095XX, 1 week - repaired, IL 138. mx5_2nr, FR-S, 1710 mi, 7085XX, in shop, TX 139. alexmotrix, FR-S, 7500 km, 4 weeks - repaired, Canada 140. IceCreamMan, FR-S, 7500 mi, 7004XX, 2 weeks - repaired, FL 141. brichard0625, FR-S, 3600 mi, NY 142. ap5512, BRZ, 4917 mi, 6010XX, VA 143. wotter, GT86, 1830 km, 5388XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, Belgium 144. darnbry, FR-S, 0.5 weeks - repaired, KS 145. KrzysFR, GT86, 1400 km, 0067XX, 5 weeks - repaired, France 146. Kieranz, BRZ, 1950 mi, 6028XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, NJ 147. rthaanum, FR-S, 800 mi, 1.5 weeks - repaired, WA 148. samseed, BRZ, CA 149. Callahan, BRZ, 1300 mi, 6027XX, in shop, NC 150. SDIAZ, FR-S, 1242 mi, in shop, NJ 151. ScionFR-S, FR-S, 2400 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, NY 152. Scout27rgr, FR-S, 1326 mi, 7079XX, in shop, TX 153. ipothas, FR-S, 120 mi, in shop, MO 154. killercl0wnfish, FR-S, 3800 mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, KY 155. silverbullet, BRZ, 2200 mi, 6035XX, 1 week - repaired, NH 156. buzzman, FR-S, 2400 mi, in shop, OK 157. traybelles, GT86, 0040XX, repaired, Australia 158. Graksthar. FR-S, 2400 mi, in shop, VA 159. mhigham, FR-S, 980 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, MI 160. v3rgil, GT86, 300 km, repaired, South Africa 161. ron_jeremy, FR-S, 40 mi, 7093XX, in shop, KS 162. M3power326, FR-S, 3208 mi, 7084XX, IL 163. MikesFRS, FR-S, 5023 mi, 7080XX, 1 week - repaired, CA 164. beardy, GT86, 987 mi, 4 weeks - repaired, Sweden 165. jmelgar23, BRZ, 2434 mi, 6029XX, in shop, NY 166. WhiteFR-S, BRZ, 987 mi, PA 167. forwallblakmail, BRZ, 5700 mi, 6017XX, PA 168. Hachi-roku, FR-S, 1893 mi, in shop, TX 169. mbaexec, FR-S, 260 mi, 7079XX , in shop, MD 170. raul, FR-S, 3893 mi, 7080XX, 1 week - repaired, FL 171. Space_Boy_Matt, BRZ, 2050 mi, 6033XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, CA 172. FoolCyclist, BRZ, 3630 mi, 6003XX, in shop, FL 173. BrewCity-FR-S, FR-S, 1523 mi, 7073XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, WI 174. SpeedmasterBRZ, BRZ, 1500 mi, 602XXX, 3 weeks - repaired, UT 175. Svx, BRZ, 1200 mi, 6035XX, 1.5 weeks - repaired, VA 176. rhysmcinerney, GT86, 1200 km, 0063XX, Australia 177. artizhay, FR-S, 3000 mi, TX 178. Jase, GT86, Australia 179. EJ33177, FR-S, 7313 mi, 7075XX, 4.5 weeks - repaired (2 ECUs), MD 180. nashsnazzy, FR-S, 2600 mi, 7076XX, in shop, TN 181. crazyfrenchbiker, FR-S, 2600 mi, 7086XX, in shop, NE 182. Curt_Aigner, FR-S, 4015 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, IL 183. WheelDude.com, FR-S, 2800 mi, in shop, CA 184. Sir_Alex, FR-S, VA 185. BCooke, BRZ, in shop, TX 186. TheSt\|G, BRZ, 1050 mi, 6034XX, PA 187. AVOturboworld, FR-S, 2700 mi, WA 188. SocalBurt, FR-S, 4000 mi, in shop, CA 189. Fizzle, FR-S, 700 mi, 2.5 weeks - repaired, CA 190. Joesuede, FR-S, CA 191. Little_Red_FR-S, FR-S, 2400 mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, NJ 192. AX_FRS, FR-S, 0.5 weeks - repaired, TX 193. ironchef, FR-S, 2300 mi, 6 weeks - repaired, GA 194. staycrushing, FR-S, CA 195. IShouldStudy, FR-S, repaired, CA 196. industrial, BRZ, 5500 mi, 6003XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, MA 197. diirk, BRZ, 3437 mi, 6032XX, CA 198. knewsom32, FR-S, TX 199. JSUB, BRZ, 1246 km, 0.5 weeks - repaired, Canada 200. BR_Zenith, BRZ, 820 mi, 6030XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, ME 201. GregV, BRZ, 3300 mi, 6020XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, NJ 202. tvpr, FR-S, 4330 mi, 7084XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, PA 203. arucard77, FR-S, 3000 mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, FL 204. Red_Shift, BRZ, 1500 mi, 6032XX, 2 weeks - repaired, PA 205. FT86Dubai, GT86, 1100 km, 2 weeks - repaired, UAE 206. Squishy, BRZ, 4715 mi, 6029XX, TX 207. E_br4ke, FRS, 2860 mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, TX 208. ToyToyTT, GT86, repaired, Philippines 209. tuckdaddy, FR-S, 5800 mi, 4 weeks - repaired, TX 210. ebphoto, FR-S, 7700mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, FL 211. TurnOne (2nd car), BRZ, 6500 mi, 6034XX, OH 212. fender2819, FR-S, 0.5 weeks - repaired, PA 213. boucher, FR-S, 5984 mi, 7088XX, in shop, LA 214. skillcraft, FR-S, 2700 mi, 7074XX, in shop, CA 215. acro, GT86, 1200 km, 0.5 weeks - repaired 216. mike_ander, FR-S, 2631 mi, 7088XX, 1 week - repaired, TN 217. luscious, FR-S, 8100 mi, CA 218. Realm, FR-S, 6100 mi, MS 219. kroarke, BRZ, 8467 mi, 6009XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, FL 220. Adeets, BRZ, 7300 mi, 6031XX, 1 week - repaired, PA 221. gara3een, GT86, Jordan 222. royer23, FR-S, 2392 mi, repaired, CA 223. themanatuf, FR-S, 8415 mi, 7089XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, FL 224. DTM, FR-S, 4000 mi, 7092XX, 1 day - repaired, VA 225. MVJ1975, FR-S, 9100 mi, 7012XX, 2 weeks - repaired, VA 226. xfire0384, FR-S, 5400 mi, 7078XX, 1 day - repaired, CA 227. jupillam, FR-S, in shop, CA 228. typeray12, BRZ, 300 mi, 6029XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, CA 229. firehawk, GT86, 4043 km, 0068XX, 1 week - repaired, Finland 230. JDMrolla, FR-S, in shop, VA 231. mvpstigma, FR-S, 2700 mi, 7080XX, in shop, VA 232. rawr, FR-S, 10100 mi, 7070XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, CA 233. lowellm, BRZ, 1200 mi, 6032XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, WA 234. WS12888, FR-S, 11000 km, 7067XX, 2 weeks - repaired, Canada 235. Touge_ninja, FR-S, 8780 mi, WA 236. aghuman, FR-S, 900 km, Canada 237. coastermikey, BRZ, 17452 mi, in shop - catastrophic engine failure,MD 238. 239. 240. Last edited by eurospeed; 04-24-2013 at 10:27 PM. Reason: updated list

08-24-2012, 08:32 PM	#2
alrashwa Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: '12 370Z Monterey Blue Location: Washington Posts: 228 Thanks: 120 Thanked 60 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Mine's on the 3rd week in the shop as well. Parts are on back-order. VVTi Cam gear and Oil control valve are what they claimed to be replacing. Waiting on gaskets which are on back-order, apparently. Awesome idea, I think this is a good candidate to be stickied. I have a feeling this is a lot more prevalent than Scion/Subaru would like to admit. Last edited by alrashwa; 08-24-2012 at 08:39 PM. Reason: added repair info

08-24-2012, 09:26 PM	#3
Subie Señor Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2013 SSM DZE BRZ Location: SC Posts: 924 Thanks: 706 Thanked 354 Times in 185 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The last six of the VIN is the unique vehicle identifier, not the last four. If you're going to have posters blank out the last two digits, you should ask for the last six digits to track production dates accurately.

08-24-2012, 09:43 PM	#4
Zadkiel Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: CBS BRZ Limited 6MT Location: PA Posts: 619 Thanks: 28 Thanked 129 Times in 97 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's never good when there's no rhyme or reason to the VINs. That usually means it's an engineering problem, right? __________________ Back in (Crystal) Black.

08-24-2012, 09:47 PM	#5
Yruyur Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Scion fr-s asphalt M/T Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,540 Thanks: 558 Thanked 664 Times in 408 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You could create a google docs form like the ended up doing for the ecu flash group buy. Have all the questions and let everyone fill it out for you. Great idea and good scrubbing of the threads! Sent from my PH44100 using Tapatalk 2 __________________ (Lemon Lawed), Visconti Pump + E85, FA20 Club E85, OEM Audio +400, Morimoto HID Retrofit + Blackout, Eibach Pro Line, Perrin Pulley, TRD Air Filter, Magnaflow Exhaust, OBD Reader, Helix Crystal Smoked Side Markers, Switch Back LED's, Ebrake Red Thread, Matching Car Seat, Tech Stream, OptiCoat, Second Transmission, CEL Survivor #9

08-25-2012, 07:43 PM	#7
White64Goat Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ CSB LTD MT, 02 WRX Location: Fred. Co. Md. Posts: 711 Thanks: 17 Thanked 181 Times in 122 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Just an FYI. FR-S last 6 start with 70, BRZ starts with 60, so if you posted what type of car you have, the last 4 will suffice.

08-25-2012, 08:46 PM	#8
rice_classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2011, 2012 ITA Champion Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,503 Thanks: 290 Thanked 740 Times in 375 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	30 as of Saturday the 25th, wow. I'm surprised there are that many. What has been the fix for these? Is it the ECU or the cam sensors or something else?

08-27-2012, 03:05 PM	#15
choi0706 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: t Location: United States Posts: 123 Thanks: 7 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	choi0706, 6027xx, brz, 200mi, TX

08-27-2012, 09:37 PM	#17
choi0706 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: t Location: United States Posts: 123 Thanks: 7 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My code is p0019.. Idle is hunting, if any one wants to see a video let me know..

08-27-2012, 09:56 PM	#18
Lonewolf Resident Nice Guy Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Moped Location: CA Posts: 2,119 Thanks: 762 Thanked 777 Times in 432 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There is a chance that a higher-up from Toyota or Subaru has seen this thread already, but Moto is someone that can probably ensure that someone with some authority can see it...might want to pm him

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08-28-2012, 12:28 AM	#19
siXXtoes Ohh Snap Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Argento FR-S Location: Encinitas 1904 Posts: 117 Thanks: 61 Thanked 21 Times in 18 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	update on mine- one week in the shop, change cam sensor and ecu at 200 miles, no issues now at 1100 miles

08-28-2012, 06:24 AM	#20
kndonlee Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: asdf Posts: 148 Thanks: 4 Thanked 20 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Glancing at the VINs, they seem to be in the 2600-2700s for the BRZs and the 7000s for the FRSs. Though I see that single 800ish FRS entry.

08-28-2012, 12:27 PM	#21
TurnOne Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: BRZ Ltd. WR Blue 6MT Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 115 Thanks: 59 Thanked 69 Times in 37 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Add me to the list. Problem started with about 250 miles. Dropped at dealer today with 335 miles on it. Reset the light twice, came back within a few miles. One time both lights were illuminated and the 'traction' light went out for a few seconds, then came back on. CEL was on the whole time. FR-S VIN#7969. Chris

08-28-2012, 06:33 PM	#22
alrashwa Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: '12 370Z Monterey Blue Location: Washington Posts: 228 Thanks: 120 Thanked 60 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Looks like we have a couple cases of the issue being repaired and failing again post-repair. I'm asking soconfoozed and Hammer for more details on their last status updates. Already printing out the Washington State lemon laws for mine. I think I'm done with this car.