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Old 03-22-2016, 01:31 AM   #295
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Today, I test drove a '16 Genesis Coupe base 3.8 6mt, '13 Genesis Coupe Ultimate 3.8 6mt w/ 38K mi & '14 BRZ Limited 6mt w/ 4800 mi.

The OOMF of the 3.8 V6 is intoxicating, but so is the much shifter / clutch of the BRZ.

I'M SO CONFUSED! :eek:

The BRZ seemed to have a smoother ride than the FRS. Do the different rear struts make that big of a difference of was I experiencing placebo affect?

Does a header and tune actually give the BRZ 40 more HP?
That might be enough.

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I would think with that big of a difference the GC wouldn't feel much more potent.

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Well now, pizza_pablo ...... decisions .. decisions ......

NOTE: I think you have your lbs and HP turned around .......

Some say the BRZ does ride a bit softer than the FR-S.

I understand that a header, tune, intake and maybe E-85 fuel will give the BRZ/FR-S a few more horsepower....... but it still won't beat that mustang sitting next to you at the light.

A BRZ/FR-S, left stock, can be a decent touring/commute car (especially with an AT).

So, now that you have driven them ..... it's pretty much your call. However, if you choose the GC ..... just don't be slowing my FR-S down, going up or down Mt Rainier .......


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Old 03-22-2016, 01:48 AM   #296
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Well now, pizza_pablo ...... decisions .. decisions ......

NOTE: I think you have your lbs and HP turned around .......

Some say the BRZ does ride a bit softer than the FR-S.

I understand that a header, tune, intake and maybe E-85 fuel will give the BRZ/FR-S a few more horsepower....... but it still won't beat that mustang sitting next to you at the light.

A BRZ/FR-S, left stock, can be a decent touring/commute car (especially with an AT).

So, now that you have driven them ..... it's pretty much your call. However, if you choose the GC ..... just don't be slowing my FR-S down, going up or down Mt Rainier .......


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GC 3400 lbs / 348 HP = 9.77
BRZ 2800 lbs / 200 HP = 14

Am I doing wrong? :o

It would be a much easier choice if the BRZ had a bit more power.
I really enjoy the road going from Puyallup to Sunrise on the east side of Rainier.
No matter which I get, if I recognize your FRS in my mirror, I'll move right over.

How do you solve the lack of armrest?

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Old 03-22-2016, 01:57 AM   #297
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GC 3400 lbs / 348 HP = 9.77
BRZ 2800 lbs / 200 HP = 14

Am I doing wrong? :o

It would be a much easier choice if the BRZ had a bit more power.
I really enjoy the road going from Puyallup to Sunrise on the east side of Rainier.
No matter which I get, if I recognize your FRS in my mirror, I'll move right over.

How do you solve the lack of armrest?

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That's wrong. You're calculating pounds per horsepower. ...which actually makes sense.
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Old 03-22-2016, 02:01 AM   #298
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That's wrong. You're calculating pounds per horsepower.
Isn't that what I'm trying to do?
Did I say horsepower per pound?
Ok, with that said, now my brain is on straight. The OOMF of the GC seems perfectly reasonable. :eek:

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GC 3400 lbs / 348 HP = 9.77
BRZ 2800 lbs / 200 HP = 14

Am I doing wrong? :o

It would be a much easier choice if the BRZ had a bit more power.
I really enjoy the road going from Puyallup to Sunrise on the east side of Rainier.
No matter which I get, if I recognize your FRS in my mirror, I'll move right over.

How do you solve the lack of armrest?

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Yep, I knew what you meant ..... I was jest ah messen wich your math presentation ...

Not much gets by ol @Ultramaroon ......

Yes, going up to Rainier, I'll be in the white FR-S, with the turn signal on and mrs humfrz yelling ...... SLOW DOWN !.

Yes, armrest - that was my very first "mod".

I use this custom made, solid leather, crafted by this old gentleman in Italy from the finest skin in the world, Italian piece of art.....

Actually it was designed for my ex NC MX5 and I adapted it to fit the FR-S.

The aftermarket does offer store bought armrests.

I like it because it's wide enough for both mrs humfrz and I to share, without annoying each other by bumping elbows. Actually, most of the time, on the twisties, her elbow is off the armrest because her hands are covering her eyes.

Let us know what you decide.


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This man is a scholar of schlap.

Kids these days don't know the pains we had to go through.

Literally.

I mean. We had no lotion, no moist towelettes, no the Fappening, no KPop Idols, no Denise Milani not... even... Brazzers. Imagine a life like that. Nuthin! Just caves, paint made of cobalt and ash, roughly hewn figurines of Venus, and cactus pads to clean up with.

F*ck this... I'm going back to watch another episode of Have Gun Will Travel, better yet Donna Reed... Shelly Fabares is a fox.
We didn't even have caves.

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Hey, where'd you get the cool seatbelt buckle buckle?
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Hey, where'd you get the cool seatbelt buckle buckle?
Here....as I recall.

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&key...l_70gr1vodc8_e

It makes buckling the seat belt much easier with that elbow rest in place .... plus I don't get it all tangled up in ma suspenders ........


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.... plus I don't get it all tangled up in ma suspenders ........
I keep shoving my jacket in there.
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Yep, I knew what you meant ..... I was jest ah messen wich your math presentation ...

Not much gets by ol @Ultramaroon ......

Yes, going up to Rainier, I'll be in the white FR-S, with the turn signal on and mrs humfrz yelling ...... SLOW DOWN !.

Yes, armrest - that was my very first "mod".

I use this custom made, solid leather, crafted by this old gentleman in Italy from the finest skin in the world, Italian piece of art.....

Actually it was designed for my ex NC MX5 and I adapted it to fit the FR-S.

The aftermarket does offer store bought armrests.

I like it because it's wide enough for both mrs humfrz and I to share, without annoying each other by bumping elbows. Actually, most of the time, on the twisties, her elbow is off the armrest because her hands are covering her eyes.

Let us know what you decide.


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My math was good, I just looked at the results bass-akwards.

Is your armrest a solid piece?
Does it wedge between the seats or is it mounted?

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Does a header and tune actually give the BRZ 40 more HP?
That might be enough.



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No!
It didn't seem likely, but I read that some where on here or thru a think given here.

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My math was good, I just looked at the results bass-akwards.

Is your armrest a solid piece?
Does it wedge between the seats or is it mounted?

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It just sits on the console; it can be moved up and back or removed.

However, it is held in place by Velcro strips, since I never have removed it.


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It didn't seem likely, but I read that some where on here or thru a think given here.

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Yep, one has to go FI to get any significant HP increase.

I have found that in the Puget Sound area (off a track) that the limiting factor for speed is the traffic in front of the FR-S ....... not the power of the FR-S.....


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