Talk me out of it: 2017 WRX

[Dark]

Originally Posted by raven1231

huh? lol

Because purchasing a full loaded WRX was a bad financial decision. It's still an Impreza. The engine is the only thing you really want.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by daiheadjai

And no RS because poor...

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People are gonna hate this one!
Have you checked out a 15 or 16 Genesis coupe? The R Spec or even the base with the 3.8 is a pile of car for the money. Not a sedan but has a usable back seat. These things have come a long way in the last few upgrades.

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

People are gonna hate this one!
Have you checked out a 15 or 16 Genesis coupe? The R Spec or even the base with the 3.8 is a pile of car for the money. Not a sedan but has a usable back seat. These things have come a long way in the last few upgrades.

yep driving a frs/brz back to back with a genesis was depressing (frs felt so much more like a drivers car) but that aside they are good cars for the money.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by raven1231

yep driving a frs/brz back to back with a genesis was depressing (frs felt so much more like a drivers car) but that aside they are good cars for the money.

Agreed when driven back to back but the last couple of years have been good to the Genny. They keep it up and it will soon be back on my short list for trade in time in a few few more years. It is also not an apples to apples comparison since it is more a GT car than a "sports car".

[Talus1]

I'm only a month behind you - my lease is up in August. I just got the reminder card in the mail last night: "Please let us help you with your next Subaru"...

If I was going to have a single, year round car, I'd seriously consider a 2016/2017 WRX. I drove one last year and found the steering a bit disappointing but otherwise I liked it well enough. I've also considered a Golf R, which has the enormous advantage of being a hatchback and has a really nice interior, though for a chunk more change.

As it is, I'm planning on the wife and I becoming a three car couple. I'm thinking another 08-10 WRX hatch, but with King springs and Gorilla spacers, as my winter beater. Then next spring, buy something fun for the summer like a 987 Cayman S.


Dunno, but something about this car turns my crank. Especially the tow hitch.

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Agreed when driven back to back but the last couple of years have been good to the Genny. They keep it up and it will soon be back on my short list for trade in time in a few few more years. It is also not an apples to apples comparison since it is more a GT car than a "sports car".

I agree, they just need to work on styling

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by raven1231

I agree, they just need to work on styling

Meh that is even more subjective than the driving aspect. I like the styling of the 14s and up.

[Atropine]

I would look into Focus RS, but I am not sure they will be available by July when your lease is up.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Atropine

I would look into Focus RS, but I am not sure they will be available by July when your lease is up.

Or in his price range as he said already.
There will be a huge price hike here in Canada since they are only bringing in a few. Pretty much all the ones being brought in to the dealers within an hour of me are already reserved. I am told (by a dealer) that they are only looking at around 2,000 for the whole country so anybody that wants one will have to be quick.

[Atropine]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Or in his price range as he said already.
There will be a huge price hike here in Canada since they are only bringing in a few. Pretty much all the ones being brought in to the dealers within an hour of me are already reserved. I am told (by a dealer) that they are only looking at around 2,000 for the whole country so anybody that wants one will have to be quick.

Yeah I replied after only reading first page...

I am just so interested in that car that I keep projecting it on every thread...

Innocent Forumite:"Hey I think want to buy a used small truck for like 3K...any recommendations?"
Me: "Have you looked at the Focus RS...is the balls to the wall Escort we never got here in the States! Get it instead!"

So yeah...I tend to jump the gun.

Once they are at dealerships and Dave-Ror does his write up...I may trade my 4 Runner in for one (I live in Idaho and I need 4WD or AWD for real...)

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Atropine

Yeah I replied after only reading first page...

I am just so interested in that car that I keep projecting it on every thread...

Innocent Forumite:"Hey I think want to buy a used small truck for like 3K...any recommendations?"
Me: "Have you looked at the Focus RS...is the balls to the wall Escort we never got here in the States! Get it instead!"

So yeah...I tend to jump the gun.

Once they are at dealerships and Dave-Ror does his write up...I may trade my 4 Runner in for one (I live in Idaho and I need 4WD or AWD for real...)

It is currently the forerunner on my trade in list for 2019. If they still make them and I can get one that is. I almost bought the ST (I do not have the forum FWD bias) just before I stumbled across the FRS so the RS sounds great.
I live in Canada and have no issues with RWD!

[tyrantcf]

Originally Posted by Dark

I have 2015 WRX. If you're into driving experience and/or refinement, stay away from WRX. Shifting is just bad, steering feels rubber-like. It's loud, very loud like Subaru hasn't learned how to dampen the road noise yet. Interior is rubbish, it's worst than any current Honda car. Don't be fooled by the first drive, go back and drive it a feel more time and start to notice what I tell you. If you can live with it after a few test drive, go for it. Not sure if it's out of your budget, but I would look into Focus RS.

Talk about refinement and then suggest a Ford?

The WRX is not the be all and end all of performance oriented cars I concede, but it's not a bad medium, especially for a DD. The only thing I don't like about mine is how high the seated position feels (coming from BRZ) and the shifter. Other than that, for $28k out the door it has everything most people would need.

[daiheadjai]

I've sat in the Genesis couple back seat, and it is actually worse (from a head room standpoint) than the Twins.

Hmmm... TSX (first gen) 6spd?

The consensus seems to be WRX.... and I certainly think that it could be the right answer (at least until the family situation and financial situation allows for a fun car and a family car).
The good thing about a lease is, if I really like the car, I could buy it (or one like it), but I also have the option to hand the keys back.

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[wbradley]

Originally Posted by Dark

Driving is subjective, I guess? Steering feels rubber-like. Don't have to agree. Brake pad they use is garbage.

Better sedan for the money? Honda Civic. Down in performance number, but better in every other way. No I dare you find sedan better than Civic for the price. Car purchase isn't an investment, if resale value is what you care about, get a 3 years old car.

I love STI, but I didn't get it, I got WRX Limited with all goodies (and Short Shifter) which was only $3000 short of Launch Edition STI at the time. I didn't get STI because EJ257 inherent spun bearing and head gasket. Could I find a better performer for the money at the time? Maybe not. What about now? 32K Mustang GT spanks WRX all day everyday. I was into "I need AWD", BS nobody needs AWD, everyone needs common sense to drive.

Resale is very important when leasing since you are paying depreciation plus interest from new to end of lease term. Guaranteed Ford will have higher depreciation percentage. Plus its much more expensive, and in short supply which means most likely higher interest rate applied. Im going to bet it will be less dependable too. Dont get me wrong, if I had the budget I would consider the RS, but not without test driving and researching reviews crom previous years in Europe.

The brakes on the WRX are same quality as the twins but the car is 550 lbs heavier. If it is such an issue, get aftermarket pads and DOT 4 fluid like I have in my FR-S and live with the squeaking.

Steering boost feels same as twins except quick turn ratio of twins reserved for STI only.

WRX is a performance oriented practical car. Dark, sounds like you should have gotten an STI. LOL.