Fortune auto vs Megan racing

[Cole]

Originally Posted by g0odspeed

That's what I'm talking about! I've got a complete Megan racing suspension. Minus the sway bars and I love it. Ran them on my eclipse and never had any issues. Not sure why everyone says they are trash? I've ridden in cars with the other brands and it felt the same to me.

What's more likely, is that some people need to justify the purchase of their expensive coils. To do so, they regurgitate what they heard about some cheaper coils, and immediately relate them to being garbage.

[KevinK121]

I owned Megans... again, they were garbage. 3/4 blew before I switched the buddy clubs They didnt last 20k miles on the RSX.

[STV3]

Quality.....

[LOLS2K]

Originally Posted by STV3

Quality.....
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What in the...

[STV3]

Originally Posted by LOLS2K

What in the...

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I caught Tetanus taking those things off.

[KevinK121]

Thats what mine looked like but less rust and more broken springs

[STV3]

Originally Posted by KevinK121

Thats what mine looked like but less rust and more broken springs

Did you have the nice loud clunking noise when you turned the wheel from the spring binding all the time?

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by GeorgeJFrick

I assume you mean a picture of the dyno actually being done? Otherwise I could post a picture of the dyno sheet that came with my coils if you want?

Your comments were spot on in regards to FA.

I think a graph from an independent shop/tester/vendor on a miscellaneous set compared to their published dynos would help solidify their reputation in the budget market. But again, my viewpoint is overkill and not shared by the 95% of people shopping for $1k coilovers, much less the general population.

Conspiratorial paranoid pessimist hat: with as many dampers as they have built over the past 5+ years it'd be easy to select the 'best' plots and place the chosen datasheet into every "86" or "FD" box and easily save a lot of money removing that bottle neck of their production, not performing dynos on every single damper they put out. Even with a video or picture it'd be easy to always dyno a set they know are good and ship out what they build without it ever getting tested, if you're this paranoid there's nothing short of sitting next to the dyno while it's being run and then taking them home right there that the vendor could do to please you, short of that there has to be a certain amount of trust. They're not charging a huge premium over the cheap ebay brands (a few hundred bucks at most) so the effort they claim is put into them means margins would be slim. Or there's fat stacks of margin on the Taiwanese stuff. Businesses have done shadier things, not at all trying to imply that FA is doing anything other than being honest and above board, but it's within the realm of possibility that they aren't. Bigger scandals have happened.

It's not an insignificant deal having dampers mismatched left to right, adjusters that are inconsistent or mismatched (i.e. 3 clicks on one doesn't match 3 clicks on the other) not to mention the potential for hysteresis (as damper works it begins to loose force and degrade) all of which are known problems with budget dampers from less reputable sources and sometimes pop up on even the big names (for example I've heard some negative stuff about some of Bilstein's consumer grade adjusters from multiple sources).

Again, after all this pontification, FA currently have a good rep the only reason not to trust them is paranoia, and what I ramble about is irrelevant to the vast majority who won't hit a track or autox course and probably doesn't belong in this thread. For people like me there are other suspension options, and that doesn't invalidate the FA's, like one of their employees posted here, comparing a $1k setup to a $4k setup is silly.

[KevinK121]

Originally Posted by STV3

Did you have the nice loud clunking noise when you turned the wheel from the spring binding all the time?

Yeah there was more noise coming from the back of that car over bumps than a box of broken china rolling down a hill.

[GeorgeJFrick]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

I think a graph from an independent shop/tester/vendor on a miscellaneous set compared to their published dynos would help solidify their reputation in the budget market. But again, my viewpoint is overkill and not shared by the 95% of people shopping for $1k coilovers, much less the general population.

Conspiratorial paranoid pessimist hat: with as many dampers as they have built over the past 5+ years it'd be easy to select the 'best' plots and place the chosen datasheet into every "86" or "FD" box and easily save a lot of money removing that bottle neck of their production, not performing dynos on every single damper they put out. Even with a video or picture it'd be easy to always dyno a set they know are good and ship out what they build without it ever getting tested, if you're this paranoid there's nothing short of sitting next to the dyno while it's being run and then taking them home right there that the vendor could do to please you, short of that there has to be a certain amount of trust. They're not charging a huge premium over the cheap ebay brands (a few hundred bucks at most) so the effort they claim is put into them means margins would be slim. Or there's fat stacks of margin on the Taiwanese stuff. Businesses have done shadier things, not at all trying to imply that FA is doing anything other than being honest and above board, but it's within the realm of possibility that they aren't. Bigger scandals have happened.

It's not an insignificant deal having dampers mismatched left to right, adjusters that are inconsistent or mismatched (i.e. 3 clicks on one doesn't match 3 clicks on the other) not to mention the potential for hysteresis (as damper works it begins to loose force and degrade) all of which are known problems with budget dampers from less reputable sources and sometimes pop up on even the big names (for example I've heard some negative stuff about some of Bilstein's consumer grade adjusters from multiple sources).

Again, after all this pontification, FA currently have a good rep the only reason not to trust them is paranoia, and what I ramble about is irrelevant to the vast majority who won't hit a track or autox course and probably doesn't belong in this thread. For people like me there are other suspension options, and that doesn't invalidate the FA's, like one of their employees posted here, comparing a $1k setup to a $4k setup is silly.

Well, to stay on topic; I think this thread has turned out very positive for FA. We've established there may or may not be a higher level of quality control, dyno, and better shims. Like all companies you have to choose your level of trust, but at least it isn't "comes from taiwan, goes in box, ships". This means that all of these coil-overs aren't the same.



It would be great if everyone who bought the DSG special editions for Christmas could post their dyno sheets. What if they were all the same?

[quiksiv]

For the love of god do not put megans on your car

[Jason@DSG]

Originally Posted by STV3

Quality.....

Holy crap...haha

[STV3]

Originally Posted by Jason@DSG

Holy crap...haha

Yep lol. In my defense..... I was only 19 when I decided to purchase these and had no knowledge of car forums at the time.

[Jason@DSG]

Originally Posted by STV3

Yep lol. In my defense..... I was only 19 when I decided to purchase these and had no knowledge of car forums at the time.

I hear you bud, we've all been there. It's definitely a learning process