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rosol16 · 02-17-2016, 05:24 PM

At about 30mph with wheel turned slightly like less than a degree I get a groaning sound similar to that of a power steering pump if you know what that sounds like. I would assume its not the power steering pump because we have electric steering. I will get a video if I can. It leads me to believe its a wheel hub/bearing?

raven1231 · 02-17-2016, 05:31 PM

Did you check your trunk?

Tcoat · 02-17-2016, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rosol16

At about 30mph with wheel turned slightly like less than a degree I get a groaning sound similar to that of a power steering pump if you know what that sounds like. I would assume its not the power steering pump because we have electric steering. I will get a video if I can. It leads me to believe its a wheel hub/bearing?

Any suspension mods? Hit anything? Aftermarket wheels?

fumanchu1 · 02-17-2016, 05:47 PM

My guess without picture or video/sound to back it up would be in line with tcoat's reasoning. Something must be hitting or rubbing somewhere (check the clearance in the wheel well, and possibly take a look while someone else turns the steering from one end to the other). If that fails you could try to replicate the noise while parked and if able to locate where the noise is coming from.

humfrz · 02-17-2016, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rosol16

At about 30mph with wheel turned slightly like less than a degree I get a groaning sound similar to that of a power steering pump if you know what that sounds like. I would assume its not the power steering pump because we have electric steering. I will get a video if I can. It leads me to believe its a wheel hub/bearing?

Welp, the first thing I would do is check the tires pressures.

Next, I would rotate the wheels, front to back.

While I had the wheels off, I would inspect the brakes for a dragging pad and see if I had a lose caliper.

Also, check for a lose wheel bearing.

If none of that fixed it, I would have the alignment checked.

All that is

....... what I would really do, is take it up to my local auto shop and have them find and fix it .......... while I went next door and had a burger.......

humfrz

rosol16 · 02-18-2016, 04:52 PM

So all stock everything suspension and wheel wise. Clearance is plenty everywhere. I can't replicate it while parked you have to be moving and it only occurs at 29-31mph. I can't get the noise at any other speeds. I live on base so most of my driving is 30 as that's the speed limit for all but a few roads. When I get a chance Ill rotate them then alignment would be my last resort. I don't have a garage or jack/stands and you can't do maintenance in the on base parking lots anyway so will have to borrow a buddy's driveway/garage for a day. I recently just purchased a Honda Grom so I've been riding that a lot recently so no real hurry to go spend money on an alignment.

fumanchu1 · 02-18-2016, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz

Welp, the first thing I would do is check the tires pressures.

Next, I would rotate the wheels, front to back.

While I had the wheels off, I would inspect the brakes for a dragging pad and see if I had a lose caliper.

Also, check for a lose wheel bearing.

If none of that fixed it, I would have the alignment checked.

All that is

....... what I would really do, is take it up to my local auto shop and have them find and fix it .......... while I went next door and had a burger.......

humfrz

CAn't tell if lying(first part) or temporary moment of senility. I approve of the latter method, burgers are great

humfrz · 02-18-2016, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fumanchu1

CAn't tell if lying(first part) or temporary moment of senility. I approve of the latter method, burgers are great

The first part is what I "think" should be done (by "someone") to try to identify the problem.

The second part is the way "I" would take care if the problem ......

I may have "brain farts" and "senior moments" ........ but, I am NOT ........ NOT .......... what were we talking about ....... ??

humfrz

fumanchu1 · 02-18-2016, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz

The first part is what I "think" should be done (by "someone") to try to identify the problem.

The second part is the way "I" would take care if the problem ......

I may have "brain farts" and "senior moments" ........ but, I am NOT ........ NOT .......... what were we talking about ....... ??

humfrz

Pretty sure we were talking about burgers rofl

Pat.Thornton · 02-18-2016, 06:37 PM

I had a similar issue last year after the winter. I was driving on complete sheets of black ice and I ended up hitting a curb very lightly with a front wheel(luckily I had steelies on). After this incident I had very similar problems. Over 30ish mph it would make a vibrating feeling/ groaning noise when I turned to the right. It turned out to be a wheel bearing that I had to have replaced, and everything works great now. Hope this helps you

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humfrz · 02-18-2016, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat.Thornton

I had a similar issue last year after the winter. I was driving on complete sheets of black ice and I ended up hitting a curb very lightly with a front wheel(luckily I had steelies on). After this incident I had very similar problems. Over 30ish mph it would make a vibrating feeling/ groaning noise when I turned to the right. It turned out to be a wheel bearing that I had to have replaced, and everything works great now. Hope this helps you

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Another vote for a bad wheel bearing.

@rosol16 have you , or any other driver, whacked your car's wheels against a curb lately .... ??

humfrz

rosol16 · 02-19-2016, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz

Another vote for a bad wheel bearing.

@rosol16 have you , or any other driver, whacked your car's wheels against a curb lately .... ??

humfrz

Negative sir have never hit anything well other than my actual accident but this sound is recent I've had the car for about a month from the body shop and it(the sound)only occurred like within the past week

extrashaky · 02-19-2016, 02:19 PM

My bet is just road noise. These cars make a lot of sounds, most of which are best ignored.

Can you post a recording of this groaning?

humfrz · 02-19-2016, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rosol16

Negative sir have never hit anything well other than my actual accident but this sound is recent I've had the car for about a month from the body shop and it(the sound)only occurred like within the past week

Could your accident have messed up the suspension/wheel bearings/hub ..... ??

I'll still tend to think you have a bad wheel bearing/hub......

humfrz

02-17-2016, 05:24 PM	#1
rosol16 Not A Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Drives: 2014 Mustang GT Location: Dyess AFB Posts: 176 Thanks: 72 Thanked 41 Times in 27 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Groaning sound At about 30mph with wheel turned slightly like less than a degree I get a groaning sound similar to that of a power steering pump if you know what that sounds like. I would assume its not the power steering pump because we have electric steering. I will get a video if I can. It leads me to believe its a wheel hub/bearing?

02-17-2016, 05:31 PM	#2
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02-17-2016, 05:47 PM	#4
fumanchu1 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Drives: 2013 Brz C38 (bought not built :P) Location: Gatineau, Qc, Canada Posts: 1,914 Thanks: 422 Thanked 1,249 Times in 802 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 6 Thread(s)	My guess without picture or video/sound to back it up would be in line with tcoat's reasoning. Something must be hitting or rubbing somewhere (check the clearance in the wheel well, and possibly take a look while someone else turns the steering from one end to the other). If that fails you could try to replicate the noise while parked and if able to locate where the noise is coming from.

02-18-2016, 04:52 PM	#6
rosol16 Not A Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Drives: 2014 Mustang GT Location: Dyess AFB Posts: 176 Thanks: 72 Thanked 41 Times in 27 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	So all stock everything suspension and wheel wise. Clearance is plenty everywhere. I can't replicate it while parked you have to be moving and it only occurs at 29-31mph. I can't get the noise at any other speeds. I live on base so most of my driving is 30 as that's the speed limit for all but a few roads. When I get a chance Ill rotate them then alignment would be my last resort. I don't have a garage or jack/stands and you can't do maintenance in the on base parking lots anyway so will have to borrow a buddy's driveway/garage for a day. I recently just purchased a Honda Grom so I've been riding that a lot recently so no real hurry to go spend money on an alignment.

02-18-2016, 06:37 PM	#10
Pat.Thornton Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: 2014' 86 Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Posts: 97 Thanks: 723 Thanked 82 Times in 45 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	I had a similar issue last year after the winter. I was driving on complete sheets of black ice and I ended up hitting a curb very lightly with a front wheel(luckily I had steelies on). After this incident I had very similar problems. Over 30ish mph it would make a vibrating feeling/ groaning noise when I turned to the right. It turned out to be a wheel bearing that I had to have replaced, and everything works great now. Hope this helps you Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

02-19-2016, 02:19 PM	#13
extrashaky Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: 2014 BRZ Limited Location: USA Posts: 4,046 Thanks: 1,100 Thanked 5,620 Times in 2,267 Posts Mentioned: 55 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	My bet is just road noise. These cars make a lot of sounds, most of which are best ignored. Can you post a recording of this groaning?

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