Most power Normally Aspirated?

[go_a_way1]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

No it's ruined My original intent was to have this thread than mod accordingly back in 2013 but things changed. Instead it got hijacked with memes and useless info and one guy with an ego posting erroneous claims.

But here's what you do:
1)Intake- drop in will net the most power because the stock intake isn't a restriction
2)Headers- a proper uel, el or the super crazy ace header(this one has been proven to nearly touch 200 whp with a tune) will smooth out the torque dip and give nearly a 20 hp bump with a tune
3) Tune- custom ecutek tune or ots OFT tune will make a really big difference otherwise the mods just lag behind and don't make any power.
4) Possible pulleys- this is debatable as to whether or not there is a noticeable difference in power

Also you can go "faster" without more power, final drive gear upgrade to 4.56-4.67 if your manual will increase acceleration quite heavily when combined with a cf or aluminum drive shaft. For an auto in my case a 4.88 final drive set is more logical.

Honestly dont bother with pulleys, I am sure you have read all about the harmonics and the crank shaft and how light pulleys that are not damped all dont play well together. Do the FD though, I will going that route one of these days. I also do not think light drive shafts have any place on a street car as the gains are minimal at best and they are not safe (well the carbon fiber one is safe when it goes)

[justatroll]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

if your manual will increase acceleration quite heavily when combined with a cf or aluminum drive shaft. For an auto in my case a 4.88 final drive set is more logical.

The cf or al driveshaft will not make the car noticeably faster than removing the same weight from elsewhere on the car. Taking the spare tire out between drag runs will make a bigger difference. It WILL feel different due to increased NVH.

[raven1231]

221 or was it 223? Anyway that guy has the world record. Has a custom made one off intake as well. Dudes a LEGEND!

[go_a_way1]

Originally Posted by raven1231

221 or was it 223? Anyway that guy has the world record. Has a custom made one off intake as well. Dudes a LEGEND!

221WHP

[Cole]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

No it's ruined My original intent was to have this thread than mod accordingly back in 2013 but things changed. Instead it got hijacked with memes and useless info and one guy with an ego posting erroneous claims.

But here's what you do:
1)Intake- drop in will net the most power because the stock intake isn't a restriction
2)Headers- a proper uel, el or the super crazy ace header(this one has been proven to nearly touch 200 whp with a tune) will smooth out the torque dip and give nearly a 20 hp bump with a tune
3) Tune- custom ecutek tune or ots OFT tune will make a really big difference otherwise the mods just lag behind and don't make any power.
4) Possible pulleys- this is debatable as to whether or not there is a noticeable difference in power

Also you can go "faster" without more power, final drive gear upgrade to 4.56-4.67 if your manual will increase acceleration quite heavily when combined with a cf or aluminum drive shaft. For an auto in my case a 4.88 final drive set is more logical.

I'm with you on everything except the drop in. It's been shown that some intakes (such as the GS intake) do outperform drop in filters. The issue is price vs performance.

I spent 50 bucks on a filter, instead of 400+ on an intake and gained (maybe, who knows. I haven't dyno'd) 5ish HP vs the 10hp I'd gain by getting the GS intake. 50% of the performance for 1/8th of the price.

Really though, this is all semantics. It's been shown that there are no solid NA offerings compared to FI. If I wanted to make substantial power, I'd go with the SBD base turbo kit and call it a day.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by go_a_way1

Honestly dont bother with pulleys, I am sure you have read all about the harmonics and the crank shaft and how light pulleys that are not damped all dont play well together. Do the FD though, I will going that route one of these days. I also do not think light drive shafts have any place on a street car as the gains are minimal at best and they are not safe (well the carbon fiber one is safe when it goes)

I'm not sure I would totally do the accessory pulley for the alternator and water pumps however, crank one is debatable, also there is a notorious pin that comes out and pulls the crank seal out, I don't want to deal with that.

My logic with the driveshaft upgrade and flywheel upgrade (if he/she has a manual transmission) is just lowering parsitic loss if you have the money and the time to deal with a proper professional install.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by Cole

I'm with you on everything except the drop in. It's been shown that some intakes (such as the GS intake) do outperform drop in filters. The issue is price vs performance.

I spent 50 bucks on a filter, instead of 400+ on an intake and gained (maybe, who knows. I haven't dyno'd) 5ish HP vs the 10hp I'd gain by getting the GS intake. 50% of the performance for 1/8th of the price.

Really though, this is all semantics. It's been shown that there are no solid NA offerings compared to FI. If I wanted to make substantial power, I'd go with the SBD base turbo kit and call it a day.

STAYING NA!!!

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by justatroll

The cf or al driveshaft will not make the car noticeably faster than removing the same weight from elsewhere on the car. Taking the spare tire out between drag runs will make a bigger difference. It WILL feel different due to increased NVH.

I had my spare removed for quite some time and it was noticeably quicker this makes more sense, but my logic is cutting parasitic loss with more mods would be a good idea.

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

STAYING NA!!!

LS swap?

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by go_a_way1

221WHP

Thanks man! It's been awhile, I just remember his reputation around the streets.

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

No it's ruined My original intent was to have this thread than mod accordingly back in 2013 but things changed. Instead it got hijacked with memes and useless info and one guy with an ego posting erroneous claims.

But here's what you do:
1)Intake- drop in will net the most power because the stock intake isn't a restriction
2)Headers- a proper uel, el or the super crazy ace header(this one has been proven to nearly touch 200 whp with a tune) will smooth out the torque dip and give nearly a 20 hp bump with a tune
3) Tune- custom ecutek tune or ots OFT tune will make a really big difference otherwise the mods just lag behind and don't make any power.
4) Possible pulleys- this is debatable as to whether or not there is a noticeable difference in power

Also you can go "faster" without more power, final drive gear upgrade to 4.56-4.67 if your manual will increase acceleration quite heavily when combined with a cf or aluminum drive shaft (has been proven to me to not be the best route by people), also cutting out extraneous weight, rear seats and seatbelts, spare tire and tools etc. For an auto in my case a 4.88 final drive set is more logical.

If you have some serious coin he might make one of his intakes for you. I know he has talked about producing them, and becoming a vendor but is hesitant to give away in secret. Doesn't want others to take his reign as champ away.

[go_a_way1]

Originally Posted by raven1231

Thanks man! It's been awhile, I just remember his reputation around the streets.


If you have some serious coin he might make one of his intakes for you. I know he has talked about producing them, and becoming a vendor but is hesitant to give away in secret. Doesn't want others to take his reign as champ away.

[GhostRai]

Originally Posted by Tectoniic

Custom 87 octane tune, that's where the real power "lies"

No that's wrong!!! The REAL power lies with mixing 100 octane racing fuel and Mountain Dew! See I know the science behind this so I can back up the claim. You may have heard that you can make Mountain Dew glow in the dark right? Well what else glows in the dark? That's right, StreetGlow under-body neons, and we all know that underglow helps contribute to that 10 second car!

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by raven1231

Thanks man! It's been awhile, I just remember his reputation around the streets.


If you have some serious coin he might make one of his intakes for you. I know he has talked about producing them, and becoming a vendor but is hesitant to give away in secret. Doesn't want others to take his reign as champ away.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...=40931&page=17

Go down to my post, he was selling it on facebook.

[kch]

Originally Posted by raven1231

221 or was it 223? Anyway that guy has the world record. Has a custom made one off intake as well. Dudes a LEGEND!

221.3, if i remember correctly.