The Dangers of Keyless Ignitions

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by jawn

Go to Home Depot, buy a bunch of wire mesh, and make a Faraday cage. Problem solved, problem staying solved.

How is this going to solve anything?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by AznBRZer

Forgetting to turn off a twin or new WRX will never be a problem because you'll either have loud crickets or a loud rumbling exhaust to remind you that the car is on. You can hear both from over 50 ft away.

I'd actually be surprised if there were cars that didn't alert the driver that the engine was still on when exiting.

All of my Mitsus would scream bloody murder at me if I tried to get out with the fob in my pocket while the car was running. There were alarms both inside and outside the car. And the y were freakn' loud!!

[PandaSPUR]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

All of my Mitsus would scream bloody murder at me if I tried to get out with the fob in my pocket while the car was running. There were alarms both inside and outside the car. And the y were freakn' loud!!

I would hate that... I frequently do quick stops where I just either double park or stand in an illegal parking spot, get out of my car to open the door for my gf, and then take off a minute after.

I coould just power off the car, but then I have to wait for the head unit to start up and reconnect with my phone right after. meh.

Also meter maids are more likely to come after me if im double parked with my car off >_>

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by PandaSPUR

I would hate that... I frequently do quick stops where I just either double park or stand in an illegal parking spot, get out of my car to open the door for my gf, and then take off a minute after.

I coould just power off the car, but then I have to wait for the head unit to start up and reconnect with my phone right after. meh.

Also meter maids are more likely to come after me if im double parked with my car off >_>

Was rare when I ever did it.
Now... My wife still has hers and just keeps the fob in her purse even when I am driving (the car does not care) and that alarm saved my bacon when I dropped her off someplace and it started dinging like mad. Except for once when I dropped her off and went to do an errand (buy beer) about 5 blocks away. It dinged and since I had my son with me I said not to bother giving me the fob I would lust leave it running while I ran in. Of course I got there and out of force of habit turned it off. We walked back for the fob. She was livid. Not fun.

[Talus1]

When we're out together in the BRZ, which has keyless ignition, my wife usually puts her purse in the trunk... with her fob in it. The BRZ will beep if the fob is left in the trunk. It eventually stops once you start the car, but it is annoying. Now she keeps the fob in a little metal pill box in her purse. Strangely, sometimes it works - i.e. the car doesn't beep - but sometimes she can open the locked trunk with the button on the car, which implies it is sensing the fob anyway.

[mdm]

I see more and more reasons to stick to old-fashioned physical keys as much as possible. Forget security, it seems to be more hassle with keyless.

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by mdm

I see more and more reasons to stick to old-fashioned physical keys as much as possible. Forget security, it seems to be more hassle with keyless.

Totally agreed. Turnkey solutions are much better.

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[Allch Chcar]

That's okay. If someone breaks into and tries to steal my car, I have security cameras and enough driveway I can... Wait, that's not legal in California.

I park so that my car has to drive in reverse to get out. It's a stick shift and there is a trick to put it in reverse. Those both reduce my chances of theft by 97%. By my calcuation, somewhere near ~90% of people can't/don't drive stick shift and ~70% of those who can/do don't drive a Mazda stickshift.

That and what idiot tries to steal a base model Mazda? A rep at a dealership told me something to that effect. It didn't hurt my feelings, much.

[gtslow]

Anything that is advertised on the nightly news is designed to scare you to get you to turn in. Turn off the TV, hit Reddit, and save yourself 30 minutes of your life.

[Stang70Fastback]

Originally Posted by mdm

I see more and more reasons to stick to old-fashioned physical keys as much as possible. Forget security, it seems to be more hassle with keyless.

Have you ever used a keyless entry vehicle? I've had this car with keyless for well over a year and it has functioned flawlessly. I never had keyless before, and it wasn't something I thought was a big deal, but if I had to get a new car tomorrow, I would want it to be keyless. It's just so convenient in so many ways.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback

Have you ever used a keyless entry vehicle? I've had this car with keyless for well over a year and it has functioned flawlessly. I never had keyless before, and it wasn't something I thought was a big deal, but if I had to get a new car tomorrow, I would want it to be keyless. It's just so convenient in so many ways.

My last 3 were but of course the FRS is not. I still walk up and touch the door handle expecting nice little beep and click. I miss that!
And don't even get me started on the whole dig through the pocket for keys after sitting down in the car thing.

[PandaSPUR]

Originally Posted by gtslow

Anything that is advertised on the nightly news is designed to scare you to get you to turn in. Turn off the TV, hit Reddit, and save yourself 30 minutes of your life.

That's a lie. Reddit will cost you so much more time XD

[swarb]

The only reason why I would want a key is if the battery ever died and I could push start/clutch start it. Not sure if it would work with the keyless versions of these cars.

[Stang70Fastback]

Originally Posted by swarb

The only reason why I would want a key is if the battery ever died and I could push start/clutch start it. Not sure if it would work with the keyless versions of these cars.

There is no voodoo magic happening with the keyless that would prevent you from doing this. Push start cars have the same modes: Press once for "Accessory," press again for "Run." You'd simply press the button twice, same as how you'd turn the key two clicks, and then push start the car.

I think peoples' aversion to keyless is a result of their lack of understanding. For example, I often hear people say, "Well what if the battery dies? I don't want to get stuck if that happens."

Okay. What happens when your non-keyless entry car's key fob dies? You use the key to manually open the door? Guess what? You do the same thing if the keyless fob dies!

"What about starting the car? There is no spot for a key! Ha!"

Well, you just hold the "dead" fob up against the start button, and the car will see it and then you can start it as normal.

There isn't a situation where the keyless version is going to screw you over somehow, but people still associate keyless entry with "voodoo magic that probably won't work half the time," when that is simply untrue.