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Old 12-04-2013, 01:34 PM   #71
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Nice to see the typical pant-shitting lobby come out with both barrels blazing. Horizontally facing front crash bars are going to do almost nothing to protect you in a high speed impact. That's what the crumple zones and unibody structure around the engine bay are for.

You can buy this and be precisely no less safe than you would be stock. Off road use only stickers are often required only by regulation and liability (theirs, not yours), not by reality.

This isn't going to cause you legal problems in the event of anything up to and including Armageddon. People hit by a car at speed are going to have their legs broken, and this looks like it's at or below knee level. That's a foregone conclusion. Stock or oem, it doesn't matter. There's more safety engineering put into the hood and windshield than the bumper in the US, and I'm pretty thankful we don't have those god-awful pedestrian safety requirements that ruin cars and reward pedestrians for their stupidity and inability to follow traffic laws.
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Old 12-04-2013, 01:36 PM   #72
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I also love how the first reaction of doomsayers is almost invariably "you'll shoot your eye out" (or someone else's) when in absence of knowledge they pull out asinine arguments like pedestrian safety.
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Old 02-21-2014, 06:05 PM   #73
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you guys are blowing this way out of proportion.
I have been building crawlers and trail rigs for years. we swap out stock bumpers for tubing all the time, and i promise ours are way stouter than this piece of tubing.
I have never seen anyone get in legal trouble due to running aftermarket bumpers.
^He's right.

Nobody gives a shit if ur driving around with "brushguards" that look like something out of Mad Max. I've seen some crazy shit go down in court. Can you be sued for mowin' down a 12yr old deaf kid on a blaze orange bike while driving a self-modified car with a non-stock bumper/beam/bar?? Sure, but you can also be sued for a litany of ridiculous things (believe me, I have been and I've not always won) However, the odds are slim.
Legally, to my knowledge, there is no Fed or state case law in CO, VA, CA, TN, TX, MD or MS on the subject because nobody has thought there is enough moral leverage there to have made an issue of it. I'd guess that they'd go after the 4x4's and guys with plows before any 4cyl.

And as we all know, as with many aftermarket goodies, "off road use only" exist primarily for liability or emissions purposes. NHTSA only test stock cars.

When I go FI, I'm prolly buying th Beatrush bar or something similar. As long as it's tucked up behind th bumper and is FMIC friendly.
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it is a Drift Armor that I got from Enjuku. The shipping was terrible, they just put a ups sticker on the bare bar with no box. Other than that, the flanges were slightly warped (either from welding or shipping). But, I really didnt mind the issues since all you need is a hammer and I have to get it painted anyway.
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