How to doughnut/drift with the AT - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

BrandonFYIA · 06-10-2012, 04:56 PM

So after reading for a bit I get the impression that everyone here is a pro driver and this is just one more car in their long line of badass cars. I however am a novice and this is my first car even capable of driving aggressively.

I feel like a turd asking but can anyone give me some tips for breaking the back end loose in a controllable fashion? I've managed to turn off the VCS and Trac and spin around wildly in a parking lot but nothing even close to controllable.

Should I leave it in normal drive? Manual mode? trac all the way off? VCS Sports mode? Normal Sports mode?

Sorry for asking so many questions. (For the record once I can get the time and money I do intend to attend a HPDE but that is a ways off and I'd like to have some fun before then.)

Mitch · 06-10-2012, 05:15 PM

I know you said you're interested in an HPDE down the road, but you can jump into autocross for a lot cheaper. Find your local SCCA chapter, sign up for an autocross (dirt cheap, $35 or less), and focus on learning car control. In the process of learning how to drive fast (which is almost always going to be tidy and controlled) you'll become intimately aware of when your car breaks free and how to reign it back in when it does so.

Guff · 06-10-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitch

I know you said you're interested in an HPDE down the road, but you can jump into autocross for a lot cheaper. Find your local SCCA chapter, sign up for an autocross (dirt cheap, $35 or less), and focus on learning car control. In the process of learning how to drive fast (which is almost always going to be tidy and controlled) you'll become intimately aware of when your car breaks free and how to reign it back in when it does so.

This. Do any practicing at a track or AutoX event and not only will you get a better understanding if your car, you won't hit anything/get in trouble with the authorities.

I also suggest watching videos on YouTube of people demonstrating track driving an even drifting (Chris Harris has some great videos) to gain a better understanding of driving at the limits.

blur · 06-10-2012, 08:00 PM

Do not do that in a parking lot.

BrandonFYIA · 06-10-2012, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by blur

Do not do that in a parking lot.

I should specify it was an abandoned parking lot. lol

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Originally Posted by Guff

I also suggest watching videos on YouTube of people demonstrating track driving an even drifting (Chris Harris has some great videos) to gain a better understanding of driving at the limits.

I've been watching a few but I've been unable to find anything for a RWD AT specifically.

feldy · 06-10-2012, 10:56 PM

Moto posted a video on his facebook. He had no problems drifting his AT or doing donuts. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=3845476531695

BrandonFYIA · 06-11-2012, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by feldy

Moto posted a video on his facebook. He had no problems drifting his AT or doing donuts. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=3845476531695

I'm one of the only people alive who doesn't use facebook. Any chance of a youtube link?

Dadhawk · 06-11-2012, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BrandonFYIA

I'm one of the only people alive who doesn't use facebook. Any chance of a youtube link?

No there's at least two of us. I'm a huge tech geek, but I have absolutely no interest in Facebook.

That said, I was able to watch the video fine without having an account.

ultra · 06-11-2012, 01:59 PM

If you want to drift, why not sign up for a drift day in a nice open parking lot? It might be tempting to try and learn on your own on the sly in some out of the way place but if you're really into it you ought to just dive in and do it properly and safely from the get -go. Not worth risking your car, your license, your safety or ore peoples' safety.

Also, might want to check out the Drift Bible on YouTube for some beginner pointers.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPQyQgyuNMI&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]The Drift Bible (How to drift for starters/pro's) with the Drift King (FULL HQ) - YouTube[/ame]

Drifting's the type of thing you can only really 'get' with tons of practice. Start slow, enjoy the journey.

I say that as a track guy who sucks at drifting

BrandonFYIA · 06-11-2012, 02:00 PM

I appreciate all the advice guys.

Lonewolf · 06-11-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

No there's at least two of us. I'm a huge tech geek, but I have absolutely no interest in Facebook.

Probably because it's some media marketing and data collection tool that the masses have unwittingly sucked up like a jelloshot made with 151

feldy · 06-11-2012, 03:08 PM

Here is the youtube link for people anti facebook.

vividracing · 06-11-2012, 03:14 PM

The drift bible is a great source of knowledge. Watch that, attend some drift days, and just practice as much as possible.

Once you feel the rear end of the car starting to come around, just gently counter-steer.

Dadhawk · 06-11-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf

Probably because it's some media marketing and data collection tool that the masses have unwittingly sucked up like a jelloshot made with 151

Wait no one told be there were jelloshots involved in Facebook! :happy0180:

06-10-2012, 08:00 PM	#4
blur ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ Join Date: Apr 2010 Drives: E36 5.7 V8 Location: Bronx, NYC Posts: 1,573 Thanks: 194 Thanked 198 Times in 112 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Do not do that in a parking lot. __________________ I wish I was cool enough to have an FR-S

06-11-2012, 01:59 PM	#9
ultra Curious cat. Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 86 GT base M/T - Red Location: Dubai Posts: 775 Thanks: 840 Thanked 383 Times in 191 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If you want to drift, why not sign up for a drift day in a nice open parking lot? It might be tempting to try and learn on your own on the sly in some out of the way place but if you're really into it you ought to just dive in and do it properly and safely from the get -go. Not worth risking your car, your license, your safety or ore peoples' safety. Also, might want to check out the Drift Bible on YouTube for some beginner pointers. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPQyQgyuNMI&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]The Drift Bible (How to drift for starters/pro's) with the Drift King (FULL HQ) - YouTube[/ame] Drifting's the type of thing you can only really 'get' with tons of practice. Start slow, enjoy the journey. I say that as a track guy who sucks at drifting __________________ 2013 Toyota 86 GT M/T 2009 Renault Clio Sport R27 Team F1 Edition (sold) 1991 Mazda MX5 Miata (sold) 2007 Mitsubishi Evo 9 RS (sold) 2006 VW Golf R32 (sold)

06-11-2012, 03:08 PM	#12
feldy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Drives: 2013 FRS Asphalt Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 1,155 Thanks: 309 Thanked 335 Times in 212 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Here is the youtube link for people anti facebook. __________________ 2013 Scion FR-S AT Picked up 5/30/2012

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Mitch form follows function Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: RIP '13 BRZ Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 688 Thanks: 42 Thanked 234 Times in 122 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I know you said you're interested in an HPDE down the road, but you can jump into autocross for a lot cheaper. Find your local SCCA chapter, sign up for an autocross (dirt cheap, $35 or less), and focus on learning car control. In the process of learning how to drive fast (which is almost always going to be tidy and controlled) you'll become intimately aware of when your car breaks free and how to reign it back in when it does so.

06-10-2012, 10:56 PM	#6
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