2017 Model Year Improvements

[go_a_way1]

@MisterSheep & others

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100051

This is what a 2017 will look like haha!
okay I had my fun I am done sorry guys

[TRD-X]

Originally Posted by go_a_way1

@MisterSheep & others

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100051

This is what a 2017 will look like haha!
okay I had my fun I am done sorry guys

[go_a_way1]

Originally Posted by TRD-X

Click the link and enjoy I died today from LOLing

[Turbo95eg6]

Originally Posted by why?

i disagree strongly on this point. We think we know something is coming. It would be awful to buy used now and then have something you like better come out in a few months or even next year, but waiting if you can a year or so and making sure you don't miss out and then buying is no big deal and no real loss.

For the majority of people that buy this car will never track it and also won't mod it.

You guys sound like my buddy who says things like this every year about iPhones, yet after waiting all this time he still owns an iPhone 4.

[Braces]

Originally Posted by TRD-X

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Something about that meme that is so familiar.

[Mim]

Originally Posted by why?

i disagree strongly on this point. We think we know something is coming. It would be awful to buy used now and then have something you like better come out in a few months or even next year, but waiting if you can a year or so and making sure you don't miss out and then buying is no big deal and no real loss.

For the majority of people that buy this car will never track it and also won't mod it.

You do realize that buying used lets you dodge the steep depreciation hit that comes with buying new and that, should a new model come, you will be able to sell or trade in your first twin and lose relatively little money in the process? We all know what you're missing out on by fence sitting

[TRD-X]

Originally Posted by Braces

Something about that meme that is so familiar.

Yoda has a lot of minion memes for the banana......

[STZ]

Originally Posted by Mim

You do realize that buying used lets you dodge the steep depreciation hit that comes with buying new and that, should a new model come, you will be able to sell or trade in your first twin and lose relatively little money in the process? We all know what you're missing out on by fence sitting

You're strongly mistaken if you think taxes that will amount to ~3k, taking the time to find a decent used one and taking the time to go through legitimately interested buyers isn't an endeavor of its own.

[Mim]

Originally Posted by STZ

You're strongly mistaken if you think taxes that will amount to ~3k, taking the time to find a decent used one and taking the time to go through legitimately interested buyers isn't an endeavor of its own.

No such thing as a free lunch, but it still works out cheaper than the depreciation on buying a brand new car and doing the trade to a newer one a year or two later than it would be if you did so with a used car to begin with.

Everything is relative though. The RRP for my BRZ A/T with leather seats is around $45,000 AUD drive away ie no more to pay. Our two markets are very different and the taxes, registration fee's insurance etc can be quite different, even with second hand. My apologies perhaps it might be more expensive in your part of the world than mine, hence your trepidation over whether to commit to the purchase now or wait.

Registration, on roads, plates and all I think was no more than $1500 AUD here new or used. Someone might need to correct me if I'm wrong though. I'm privileged to have never bought used so lack the personal experience.

[STZ]

Originally Posted by Mim

No such thing as a free lunch, but it still works out cheaper than the depreciation on buying a brand new car and doing the trade to a newer one a year or two later than it would be if you did so with a used car to begin with.

K actually what the heck are you going on about.

Uh yes, buying a new car and then trading it in 2 years after will cost more than buying a used car and trading it in 2 years after. This is really elementary stuff and common sense. However, I don't know how this applies to me, or anyone currently, and is completely out of the blue. I don't have a used 86, nor do I plan on buying a new 86 tomorrow, just to trade them in if I like the MY17.

Neither of those options are my plan, so why does it sound like you're trying to tell me that I'd be better off doing this or that

Literally no one has said anything about having bought a used twin to trade it in for a MY17, but you keep talking about it for some reason.

To clarify my situation: I don't have my own car at the moment nor do I have a need for one. I currently DD the family's Corolla. I will need my own car next year due to schedule conflicts which perfectly correlates to the release of the MY17, which is rumored to have minor upgrades. I am waiting to see whether or not I like the facelift and if the upgrades are significant, and if they're nice I'll buy a new MY17. If not, I'll buy a used MY14/15 or maybe a new MY16 discounted for clearance. If I buy an 86, used or new, right now, I'm paying a lot of money for a decision I might regret in a year so I am waiting. If I like the MY17 but there's a really good deal on MY16s, I won't have buyers remorse since it would then be a conscious choice that I took the older model in order to save money.

If you're trying to tell me to buy a used 86 and then trade it in next year, that would literally make me take a hit, completely ignoring the factor of time and stress from buying/selling, of around 5000 dollars in taxes, depreciation, and trade margins to a dealership. I would be losing one fifth of an entire new 86 just because I couldn't be bothered to wait a year and wanted something I didn't need. That's just stupid life decision making right there.

[Mim]

I guess you have your answer then

I myself waited two years and worked hard to solidify my finances and made sure I was in a good financial position to afford this car. It was worth the wait for me.

You will only need to wait a few months to know if the features on the 2017 were worth the wait, but if history is anything to go by, I'm not expecting much beyond a mildly tweaked front and rear.

[why?]

Originally Posted by Turbo95eg6

You guys sound like my buddy who says things like this every year about iPhones, yet after waiting all this time he still owns an iPhone 4.

nothing wrong with an iphone 4. The newer ones are not really significantly better. I'm still waiting for actual fast data for phones, even 4g lte isn't remotely reliable.

[why?]

Originally Posted by Mim

You do realize that buying used lets you dodge the steep depreciation hit that comes with buying new and that, should a new model come, you will be able to sell or trade in your first twin and lose relatively little money in the process? We all know what you're missing out on by fence sitting

that isn't really true. These cars depreciation is starting to accelerate especially for 2013 models. Also note all the other costs that come with buying a car, tax, title, licensing, etc that you cannot get back and will have to pay again if you trade it in on another one in a few years.

Now if you could pick a good one up for $5k I would agree. But even the least expensive ones are $17k or so.

[TommyC]

Originally Posted by why?

that isn't really true. These cars depreciation is starting to accelerate especially for 2013 models. Also note all the other costs that come with buying a car, tax, title, licensing, etc that you cannot get back and will have to pay again if you trade it in on another one in a few years.

Now if you could pick a good one up for $5k I would agree. But even the least expensive ones are $17k or so.

There is a "perfect condition" FRS with 20k miles for sale for $14k near me. Never mind the fact that it has a rebuilt title.