left-foot braking with AT

[soulreapersteve]

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

Fuck night shift. Been there done that

I completely agree! Don't think this will be a long term deal.

But it is much slower at night (perfect for my lazy ass) and the differential allows me to more than comfortably afford this car.

[Uplink]

Here's a good watch from

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[mdm]

Originally Posted by Uplink

Unless that's your commute.

Very close. Tad more traffic ;-)

[86kahl]

So what was the point of this thread? OP was already convinced on the merits of left foot braking. Driving AT in a twin won't be any different.


/end thread

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by 86kahl

So what was the point of this thread? OP was already convinced on the merits of left foot braking. Driving AT in a twin won't be any different.


/end thread

There was no point

[VittorioS]

I have nothing to contribute to this thread.

[Uplink]

Originally Posted by VittorioS

I have nothing to contribute to this thread.

8 pages I resisted posting that pic.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

Why is it dumb?

Car is designed for right foot operation.

Left foot hoovering over brake is risking injury due to the poor ergonomics of the angle required

If foot kept on floor where it belongs then braking time is increased significantly due to travel

The likelihood of operating gas while braking is introduced and could be done at the worst possible time

The habit of resting the foot on the brake while driving can develop.

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Car is designed for right foot operation.

Left foot hoovering over brake is risking injury due to the poor ergonomics of the angle required

If foot kept on floor where it belongs then braking time is increased significantly due to travel

The likelihood of operating gas while braking is introduced and could be done at the worst possible time

The habit of resting the foot on the brake while driving can develop.

Sure, I agree with your points but they are "just" bad habits with the exception of ergonomics which varies car by car. I have read often enough of people apply full throttle when panicking instead of hitting the brakes so I am suggesting that left foot braking isn't wrong per se but needs practice to become proficient like everything else.
Karting:left foot braking. Rally bashing (personal experience): left foot braking. Driving the manual BRZ: no. Mum's Yaris?: if I feel like street racing.

[mdm]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Car is designed for right foot operation.

Yes and no. If it was designed solely for right foot operation, wouldn't the brake pedal in AT look and be located exactly the same as in MT? But it's larger and more in the middle.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Left foot hoovering over brake is risking injury due to the poor ergonomics of the angle required


If foot kept on floor where it belongs then braking time is increased significantly due to travel

Injury? Probably not, at least in my case. It can be a bit uncomfortable, and I initially thought I'd do it only during my commute, usually 40-60 minutes and requiring a lot of brake use anyway. But I did a few longer trips (up to 2 hrs or so) and still it was not an issue. Maybe for really long trips, when I am on limited access highways in light traffic (no sudden braking expected) I'd put the foot on the floor for a while to rest.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The likelihood of operating gas while braking is introduced and could be done at the worst possible time

Once again, people keep saying that and I have seen no evidence for this, nor it makes sense to me. As I argued above, after the left-foot-brakinghabit is learned, I believe it is LESS likely to press gas while intending to brake.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The habit of resting the foot on the brake while driving can develop.

I agree this would be a bad habit and should be avoided.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

Sure, I agree with your points but they are "just" bad habits with the exception of ergonomics which varies car by car. I have read often enough of people apply full throttle when panicking instead of hitting the brakes so I am suggesting that left foot braking isn't wrong per se but needs practice to become proficient like everything else.
Karting:left foot braking. Rally bashing (personal experience): left foot braking. Driving the manual BRZ: no. Mum's Yaris?: if I feel like street racing.

Ahhhh well there is the rub here. Left hand braking for performance purposes and driving is not the same as doing it all the time on the street. There are many performance driving methods that are great on the track but should stay there. It is the claim that it is a better method for street driving that I am debating here not that it serves no purpose ever.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by mdm

Yes and no. If it was designed solely for right foot operation, wouldn't the brake pedal in AT look and be located exactly the same as in MT? But it's larger and more in the middle.


Injury? Probably not, at least in my case. It can be a bit uncomfortable, and I initially thought I'd do it only during my commute, usually 40-60 minutes and requiring a lot of brake use anyway. But I did a few longer trips (up to 2 hrs or so) and still it was not an issue. Maybe for really long trips, when I am on limited access highways in light traffic (no sudden braking expected) I'd put the foot on the floor for a while to rest.


Once again, people keep saying that and I have seen no evidence for this, nor it makes sense to me. As I argued above, after the left-foot-brakinghabit is learned, I believe it is LESS likely to press gas while intending to brake.

I agree this would be a bad habit and should be avoided.

Apparently neither of us is going to convince the other no matter what we say so I will simply close with the totally useless statement that if the left foot was to be used then this method would be taught and recommended.

[mdm]

Indeed, we are going in circles now.


Thanks to everyone for a relatively (for an internet forum!) civilized discussion, for those few answers that were on topic, and for the off-topic part too.

[86kahl]

Off-topic, when trying to left foot brake in a wet parking lot, I unfortunately crushed my fellas while switching feet and will never again attempt this dangerous and risky (to my testicles) maneuver.