Elephant in the room

[rascasse]

Greetings from England!! (Not New England btw )

I've had my GT86 for around 3 weeks now and have got the infamous rattle through clutch and a little bit through steering when going over rough roads at around 5mph. Don't worry I've done a search on this forum (best 86/BR
Z/FRS forum I know of) and have found the below link and think this may be it

People in the UK seem to just put up with this issue but i'm definitely not going to! My dealer has diagnosed as Thrust bearing as a possibility and want to strip GB. I think this is as the GB seems fine to me and reckon the noise will still be there afterwards..Was just hoping someone else has had this issue and got it finally resolved. I know the Aussies believe it's something to do with the JTEKT EPS system not filtering out rattles when going over bumps??

Anyway here's the link - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29405

Any feedback would be much appreciated

[go_a_way1]

Originally Posted by rascasse

Greetings from England!! (Not New England btw )

I've had my GT86 for around 3 weeks now and have got the infamous rattle through clutch and a little bit through steering when going over rough roads at around 5mph. Don't worry I've done a search on this forum (best 86/BR
Z/FRS forum I know of) and have found the below link and think this may be it

People in the UK seem to just put up with this issue but i'm definitely not going to! My dealer has diagnosed as Thrust bearing as a possibility and want to strip GB. I think this is as the GB seems fine to me and reckon the noise will still be there afterwards..Was just hoping someone else has had this issue and got it finally resolved. I know the Aussies believe it's something to do with the JTEKT EPS system not filtering out rattles when going over bumps??

Anyway here's the link - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29405

Any feedback would be much appreciated

Hello welcome.

There is a TSB over here for shifter rattle, you just drop it off at the dealer and they take care of it in a few hours and thats that. It is on here somewhere so maybe have your dealer try that first?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by go_a_way1

Hello welcome.

There is a TSB over here for shifter rattle, you just drop it off at the dealer and they take care of it in a few hours and thats that. It is on here somewhere so maybe have your dealer try that first?

That only applies to the 13s and some very early 14s though so not sure it can be used on the later ones.

[go_a_way1]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

That only applies to the 13s and some very early 14s though so not sure it can be used on the later ones.

Oh, did not know that! Thanks for pointing that out!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by go_a_way1

Oh, did not know that! Thanks for pointing that out!

TSBs are all only good up to the product change VINs. After that the production cars have whatever change was made already done so performing a TSB would be useless.

[rascasse]

Thanks

Sorry guys I should of been more clear on that thread..although I do have the shifter ratte, my main concern is the cluncking and loose feeling through the clutch and steering over rough roads at low speeds, don't hear it when going above 30/40mph.

Ps my car is a late 12 with 26k on the clock.

[BRZnut]

Originally Posted by rascasse

Thanks

Sorry guys I should of been more clear on that thread..although I do have the shifter ratte, my main concern is the cluncking and loose feeling through the clutch and steering over rough roads at low speeds, don't hear it when going above 30/40mph.

Ps my car is a late 12 with 26k on the clock.

Welcome to the family! I think what you are going to find is that there are a lot of great aspects to these cars but there also seems to be build quality issues.


That being said, I have an automatic and we have a lot of bumpy roads here but I have not noticed any steering issues going over them. I do notice that you feel every rock and pebble in the road compare to other cars I have driven.


Did you check your tire pressure? Maybe your tires are over inflated?? I run around 33-34 psi for the best feel.

[rascasse]

Originally Posted by BRZnut

Welcome to the family! I think what you are going to find is that there are a lot of great aspects to these cars but there also seems to be build quality issues.


That being said, I have an automatic and we have a lot of bumpy roads here but I have not noticed any steering issues going over them. I do notice that you feel every rock and pebble in the road compare to other cars I have driven.


Did you check your tire pressure? Maybe your tires are over inflated?? I run around 33-34 psi for the best feel.

Thanks man!

Yes those are the pressures I run but what i'm feeling is a rattle through the clutch pedal when engaged only going slowly and a little feeling through the steering. It's as if there is something loose like steering rack or gearbox and they're shaking when going over pot holes at low speeds. I have read that a lot of 86 owners in the UK have this but just live with it. It's going into my dealers in the new year but they think it's something to do with the thrust bearing but I highly doubt it..

[rascasse]

Anyone with similar issue?

[rascasse]

Bump lol

[pantdino]

Originally Posted by rascasse

Thanks man!

Yes those are the pressures I run but what i'm feeling is a rattle through the clutch pedal when engaged only going slowly and a little feeling through the steering. It's as if there is something loose like steering rack or gearbox and they're shaking when going over pot holes at low speeds. I have read that a lot of 86 owners in the UK have this but just live with it. It's going into my dealers in the new year but they think it's something to do with the thrust bearing but I highly doubt it..

I have an automatic, but I assume the clutch is hydraulic in these cars, so there is no mechanical connection between the clutch pedal and the tranny. So even if the tranny were moving around the clutch pedal would not.


What you are feeling in the steering wheel might be just the mass of the wheel and column vibrating in the bushings.


In my opinion these cars have unnecessarily firm springs, so you feel every little bump or undulation in the pavement.

[Packofcrows]

Originally Posted by rascasse

Thanks

Sorry guys I should of been more clear on that thread..although I do have the shifter ratte, my main concern is the cluncking and loose feeling through the clutch and steering over rough roads at low speeds, don't hear it when going above 30/40mph.

Ps my car is a late 12 with 26k on the clock.

TOB checking time! Push dealer to just replace that sob!

[rascasse]

Originally Posted by pantdino

I have an automatic, but I assume the clutch is hydraulic in these cars, so there is no mechanical connection between the clutch pedal and the tranny. So even if the tranny were moving around the clutch pedal would not.


What you are feeling in the steering wheel might be just the mass of the wheel and column vibrating in the bushings.


In my opinion these cars have unnecessarily firm springs, so you feel every little bump or undulation in the pavement.

Thanks for the replies guys!

So i presume you get this knocking feeling as well but it's just normal?? i've never felt this in any car before. It basically feels like something is going to drop off at low speed on a rough road..very disconcerting lol

It sounds like the OEM bushes are not doing a very good job then if the column moves around like that and can be felt through the pedal, i should say it's actually felt more through the pedal than anywhere else. So BRZ has stiffer spring rate in front, do they feel it more than us 86/FRS owners i wonder??

[rascasse]

Originally Posted by Packofcrows

TOB checking time! Push dealer to just replace that sob!

Sorry but what's TOB?