If the S2000 were to return, would you guys be excited?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by GhostRai

In other new, I saw on Facebook that the 2017 Dodge Charger is announced and they're also bringing back the Barracuda!!! Here is a photo:

Originally Posted by pushrod

I was about to say "this looks familiar", but now I see the URL: "1999". Thought so.

Pretty sure Ghost was being sarcastic with his Facebook reference.


You are correct Push that is a very old rendering of what they "may have " done for the 2005s. They didn't as we know.
At risk of saying more than I should let's let it stand that any possible changes to the Charger will not make it more interesting to anybody on this forum.

[Rampage]

If the S2000 were to return, would you guys be excited?

Honestly? No.

The original was expensive for what it was and I doubt:

1. That this is coming
2. That it would be competitive, price wise.
3. That it would be affordable for those that truly are excited about it.

[weederr33]

Yeah.... probably not....

[soulreapersteve]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

True S2000 successor? 150-300 hp, ~2,700 lbs, low practicality, relatively high price point? Cool. Would I buy? Nah.

S660 or slightly upsized very light mid-engined derivative for less $$$ than a Camry truly worthy of the Honda S___ name?

Just my armchair quarterback opinion.

Still want this car to come to the US, the s660. Fun DD or weekend car and the FRS can be my other weekend warrior.

Used to want an s2000 but now I'm like.. meh.

[Summerwolf]

Not really

[TylerLieberman]

As stated above... I'm not sure if I'd be excited other.

First off, it's all rumor and speculation, so why even lose sleep over it to begin with? Second, there are so many factors: weight, cost, performance, appearance, etc. etc.

I always thought it would be cool to see an RX7 successor, and then I saw that pitiful excuse of a concept that was released recently, and lost all hope.

I understand the need for modern safety and emissions standards and things, but I miss the simplistic charm of the old performance cars from Honda. I feel like automakers need to be reminded of the acronym: K.I.S.S.

[serialk11r]

Maybe this argument also goes for the year 2000 when the S2000 was first launched, but there is no shortage of reasonably good FR sports cars on the market right now. As far as two seaters go, the Miata has now grown up to a modern 2.0L engine in a <2400lb frame with a nice interior, and the engine can be tuned to make similar power to the twins. The twins can be tuned to the former S2000's power levels or more if that is what you desire.

I don't really see where a turbo FR car fits into the picture. The turbo will add to the price and make the engine response worse, and the competition is very stiff below 30k and above 50k. If you budget mid 30s to 40k for a car and Honda happens to be in that range, you could grab a 370Z or muscle car if you want to accelerate quickly and cruise in style, a BMW if you like leather, a WRX if you need to carry stuff, or a BRZ or Miata and leave some money in your pocket and for mods. For not much more money you can have a Porsche Boxster, or a Corvette, or whatever the FT1 is going to be.

The main threat is really the Miata of course, because it's a light, nimble, and now reasonably fast 2 seat convertible. The only way to compete with all these FR sports cars is to make an MR car not an FR car. Besides, on a new platform it'll be cheaper because you can just grab a FWD drivetrain and toss it in the back. A next gen L15 or R18 would do just fine, maybe even go the CRZ route and throw in the hybrid for some more low end grunt.

[BRZZZZZZZZZZ]

If they get it right like the AP1/AP2 then yes I will be very excited, however having a turbo engine doesn't speak to me for a successor. My AP1 is probably one of my absolute favorite cars I have owned in the last 11 years since I got my learners license, and I have sampled and owned a lot of vehicles. They whole combination of engine, transmission and steering in a mostly stock form is so much more fun to drive hard than a lot of other vehicles in my opinion. There is just something about the whole package of the car I enjoy compared to a lot of other cars I owned or modified.

But yes they were too expensive at the time.

[NyC Zn6]

s2000 dead homie

[WolfpackS2k]

"S2000 expensive for what it was"

WTF?

After the high demand of the first year you could buy them for $29,900. For that price it was faster than the BMW Z3, Mercedes Benz SLK, Audi TT, Porsche Boxster, Ford Mustang GT and Chevy Camaro Z28. Basically faster than anything cheaper than a Corvette. So please go on about how it was overpriced.

It was the only RWD lightweight sports car with a race suspension and hand built engine under $50k.

And for the 10000000th time, you can't play the stupid "adjusted for inflation" price game. How much would a 2000 Civic Si cost today, adjusted for inflation? A hell of a lot more than what a 2015 Civic Si sells for, that's what.



I'm not gonna argue that Honda let this special car wither on the vine, but that's on them, not the car. MSRP might have been $34,500 for this car in 2009, but nobody paid that price. In 2008 I purchased my 2007 S2000 with 4800 original miles for $21,500.00 And there were plenty of other ones for sale for similar money. Their resale didn't spike till after the car was discontinued. Funny how that works.

[BRZZZZZZZZZZ]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

"S2000 expensive for what it was"

WTF?

After the high demand of the first year you could buy them for $29,900. For that price it was faster than the BMW Z3, Mercedes Benz SLK, Audi TT, Porsche Boxster, Ford Mustang GT and Chevy Camaro Z28. Basically faster than anything cheaper than a Corvette. So please go on about how it was overpriced.

It was the only RWD lightweight sports car with a race suspension and hand built engine under $50k.

And for the 10000000th time, you can't play the stupid "adjusted for inflation" price game. How much would a 2000 Civic Si cost today, adjusted for inflation? A hell of a lot more than what a 2015 Civic Si sells for, that's what.



I'm not gonna argue that Honda let this special car wither on the vine, but that's on them, not the car. MSRP might have been $34,500 for this car in 2009, but nobody paid that price. In 2008 I purchased my 2007 S2000 with 4800 original miles for $21,500.00 And there were plenty of other ones for sale for similar money. Their resale didn't spike till after the car was discontinued. Funny how that works.

They were over $50k CAD in Canada back in 2008/2009 sadly. My dad was about to purchase one of the really rare 2009 Canadian models but ended up with a Z4M for a little tiny bit more. Glad I have one now though, paid $12k CAD for my AP1.

[acro]

Excited yes.

Would I buy no. I need rear seats. Even ones as small as the frs have been life savers.

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

And for the 10000000th time, you can't play the stupid "adjusted for inflation" price game. How much would a 2000 Civic Si cost today, adjusted for inflation? A hell of a lot more than what a 2015 Civic Si sells for, that's what.

MSRP on a 2000 Civic Si was $17,545. Adjusted for inflation, that would be $23,824 today.

MSRP on a 2015 Civic Si is $23,090.

[cyde01]

drove an AP2 for a few years. hated having only 2 seats, no trunk space and the snap oversteer was scary as hell but man, the F22C was awesome to rev. i dunno what the current turboed honda engines are like but i hope they get it right if they make a new one.