Engine swap or not what would be the best amount of hp for the 86?

[Justin.b]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

As for vette, I'm not sure on resale, I feel most muscle cars go through same kind of resale.

Local Chevy dealer is offering a new Z28 for ~$52k ($20k discount off MSRP). Corvettes at least don;t start depreciating until they are purchased once.

-Justin

[Cedars]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

Maybe, that's interesting. I would think that after importing something it would retain some of its value. Here generic Nissans plummet, I think its actually the worst resale Japanese make! Edmunds say Nissans lose 46% of value after one year. I'm sure the 370 and GTR are exceptions....


Subaru and Lexus are the top resale vehicles.

46% drop jeez. Jap cars retain value because they do well in extreme heat. Temps can reach 50 c in summer. List a Toyota for sale and it's gone the next day at a very good price. Sport cars will lose value no matter what the make. I've been monitoring the prices of the gt for a while because I was going to buy a used and their prices held. 2013 models lost just 15 to 20% of their value can you believe that?

[billwot]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

Edmunds say Nissans lose 46% of value after one year.

Please provide a link or other documentation to support that!

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

tq dip is one of trait of boxer engine. Even Porsche's boxer engine have this tq dip.

Yes, but if my line of thinking is right (its probably not, but I'm gonna keep going anyway) other than boost, they key to more torque (and power) is displacement. The saying came about for a reason.

Additionally, we all know a catless UEL and an ECU tune does wonders for this car. If it were possible for Subaru to implement those changes, it might be the difference some/most people are looking for.

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[Cedars]

Originally Posted by billwot

Please provide a link or other documentation to support that!

https://dubai.dubizzle.com/m/motors/...s=&price__lte=


Brand new they cost between 90,000 to 124,000 in the local currency. 20 to 25% to be more accurate.

1$ = 3.68 in local currency.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Yes, but if my line of thinking is right (its probably not, but I'm gonna keep going anyway) other than boost, they key to more torque (and power) is displacement. The saying came about for a reason.

Additionally, we all know a catless UEL and an ECU tune does wonders for this car. If it were possible for Subaru to implement those changes, it might be the difference some/most people are looking for.

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Yes, UEL header will kill TQ dip to certain lvl... but that won't pass smog

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Yes, UEL header will kill TQ dip to certain lvl... but that won't pass smog

Eh, bull! VW did it, so can Subaru!

On a serious note, that's true. It's been a while, but even catted UEL headers help with the torque dip a little. Combining that and a slightly larger displacement just might help

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[ZionsWrath]

Originally Posted by Cole

The only thing I'm going to say to your comment (not that I disagree with it, but it is somewhat anecdotal), was it the mod that actually did the performance improvement, or did the mod just give you the balls to do it?

My opinion, its all relative. If I had a turbo 86 I'm sure there are guys in stock cars putting down faster times than I would.

My personal mods weren't because I wanted to go faster.
I got track tires because I hated how the stock ones would get greasy and I had to drive slow to cool them.
I got dedicated track wheel because I like having a street tire for the street. Plus I don't have to worry about road debris ruining my track weekend if I get a flat driving there.
I got "BBK" because I like how a set of pads lasted me 12 days vs 4 on stock size.

Honestly I wish I could afford a tow vehicle and trailer. But then I'd probably not have a twin.

[ChrisFL]

Engine swap recommendation: 3JZ

Why go 1JZ or 2JZ when you can go 3JZ....right? right? and no one else has one, you'd be the first!

[billwot]

Originally Posted by Cedars

https://dubai.dubizzle.com/m/motors/...s=&price__lte=


Brand new they cost between 90,000 to 124,000 in the local currency. 20 to 25% to be more accurate.

1$ = 3.68 in local currency.

What am I missing here?

Summerwolf said:

"Edmunds say Nissans lose 46% of value after one year."

I replied:

" Please provide a link or other documentation to support that!"

And you replied:

https://dubai.dubizzle.com/m/motors/...s=&price__lte=


Brand new they cost between 90,000 to 124,000 in the local currency. 20 to 25% to be more accurate.

1$ = 3.68 in local currency.

I see no reference to Edmunds, Nissans, or 1st year depreciation in your response. Maybe your quoting figures for a specific Nissan, and maybe to Dubai, but that wouldn't apply to Nissans in general, or to the US or world markets. And I see no documentation from Edmunds of any kind.

My point is 1) Nissans (as a brand) do NOT lose 46% (or even 25%) first year depreciation, and 2) I'm sure Edmunds never said that.

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by Cedars

Probably in the states American cars retain their value better than they do in the gulf, here if you compare their depreciation to Japanese cars there is a big difference. Their parts are also more expensive and seem to be more prone to needing repairs than Jap cars. The best cars for retaining value here are :
1. Toyota
2. Nissan

German cars, British cars, American cars depreciate at a much faster pace. French cars have the highest depreciation.

It's really the same up here. American cars don't hood their value as well as a lot of imports(excluding trucks)

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by billwot

What am I missing here?

Summerwolf said:

"Edmunds say Nissans lose 46% of value after one year."

I replied:

" Please provide a link or other documentation to support that!"

My point is 1) Nissans (as a brand) do NOT lose 46% (or even 25%) first year depreciation, and 2) I'm sure Edmunds never said that.

I just now even saw this.


Yes I found it on Edmunds.com. I was blowing through articles at work trying to find resale values on corvettes / brands and stumbled across that. I admit fully that I cannot find the article again, I even checked my browser history. Maybe it applied to a certain vehicle and I missed that?


I think it would make sense though. Locally you can buy a Slightly used Nissan for about half of what a current model year would be.


http://www.autocentersnissan.com/use...anchor-make-15

[brandonblt2]

Originally Posted by billwot

What am I missing here?

Summerwolf said:

"Edmunds say Nissans lose 46% of value after one year."

I replied:

" Please provide a link or other documentation to support that!"

And you replied:
I see no reference to Edmunds, Nissans, or 1st year depreciation in your response. Maybe your quoting figures for a specific Nissan, and maybe to Dubai, but that wouldn't apply to Nissans in general, or to the US or world markets. And I see no documentation from Edmunds of any kind.

My point is 1) Nissans (as a brand) do NOT lose 46% (or even 25%) first year depreciation, and 2) I'm sure Edmunds never said that.

Did a quick test to confirm that certain nissian's resale value are extreme low. Did a test of selling a 2015 nissian altima with 15k on the obo in perfect condition. Kbb priced it to only $14,000 compared to a brand new base model off the lot costing $22,000. But its probably due to a new model 2016 just being released. Did another test looking a nissian sentra it held value much better only dropping about $2,000

[Cedars]

Originally Posted by billwot

What am I missing here?

Summerwolf said:

"Edmunds say Nissans lose 46% of value after one year."

I replied:

" Please provide a link or other documentation to support that!"

And you replied:
I see no reference to Edmunds, Nissans, or 1st year depreciation in your response. Maybe your quoting figures for a specific Nissan, and maybe to Dubai, but that wouldn't apply to Nissans in general, or to the US or world markets. And I see no documentation from Edmunds of any kind.

My point is 1) Nissans (as a brand) do NOT lose 46% (or even 25%) first year depreciation, and 2) I'm sure Edmunds never said that.

I'm giving you the local prices. That link I posted is a popular used car website, so you can calculate the depreciation if u like. Brand new manual gt starts at 90,000 aed goes all the way to 124,000 aed for the full option auto. 1$ = 3.68 aed.