SPOON rigid collars install

[solidONE]

If you can replicate what they did in the Rigicollar infomercial, that would be at least one good way to prove it. Like the before and after slomo vid they did with the Prius. But, you'd need a baseline. Probably a little too late for that now since its already installed.

[EAGLE5]

If a simple change like that would make such a big difference, it would be done stock. It looks as if they unbolted the sub frame in the before video. The twin structure is very stiff compared to most cars.

[Falcon]

Finally recieved mine and had them installed.

The Cars eigenfrequencies and some of the resonance frequencies definetly changed.

Car feels and sounds different over short bumbs.

I am pleased with the result.

[Calum]

Originally Posted by solidONE

If you can replicate what they did in the Rigicollar infomercial, that would be at least one good way to prove it. Like the before and after slomo vid they did with the Prius. But, you'd need a baseline. Probably a little too late for that now since its already installed.

Take a careful look at the video where it shows both before and after together. The cars start out at different speeds, but the videos are edited to look the same. It also looks like the after video has the brakes applied to help arrest the vertical movement.

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by Calum

Take a careful look at the video where it shows both before and after together. The cars start out at different speeds, but the videos are edited to look the same. It also looks like the after video has the brakes applied to help arrest the vertical movement.

I guess Spoon isn't above tampering with data to sell a product for profit...

To be fair, the collars "should" have a positive effect on the sub-frame to frame rail connections. Perhaps just not quite as dramatic an effect as advertised by Spoon. It's not unlike the TRD door-jammer thinger in that sense.

[mokinbird87]

havent checked back at this thread in a while.. looks like people have positive results!

[EAGLE5]

Originally Posted by mokinbird87

havent checked back at this thread in a while.. looks like people have positive results!

Well, they think they do!

[KoolBRZ]

Well, my weekends have been too complicated to install mine yet, but it seems like most of the improvement is felt on older models which didn't have the improved bolts. I have a 2013, so I should feel improvement on mine. I'm looking forward to reducing suspension slop so I can fine-tune my spring pressure and dampening. I have air suspension with adjustable mount height, rebound dampening, and of course, spring strength, or pressure. Hopefully I can get at least the front done when I change out my header/front pipe to pass DEQ.

[KoolBRZ]

I was reinstalling my aftermarket header, so I already had it up in the air, with the covers off and everything. It was easy. I spent more time and effort buttering everything up with grease, than I spent actually installing them. The rears were a little bit trickier, since there are plates top and bottom, to be installed in the right order. I took a test drive last night and the whole car seems more solid, maybe even a little bit quieter. It used to shake whenever it went over a bump, now it just goes thump. I can finally tune in my suspension now that I've got rid of the looseness.
I have Airlift and I can adjust spring strength and rebound dampening. Rebound changes with spring strength, so I just set the ride height/spring strength first, then adjust dampening to suit. I also have the softer, hollow, sway bars, so there is less to control the suspension going all flubbery over bumps. I would definitely recommend these to anyone who has a 2013 or 2014 before the use of the new stepped bolts. If you have the newer design bolts installed not only won't these inserts fit, but you wouldn't feel much of a difference if they did.
The newer bolts put all the strain on the threads, while the older bolts with inserts put the strain on the surrounding holes. I haven't heard about any of the new car's frames being torn apart on the track, so I guess the newer bolts work out OK.
If you've already bought these and have put off installing them, don't, it's easy. It's only 8 bolts. I bought new bolts online, and I made sure they were the old style bolts without the wider shoulders. I would recommend using new bolts, since these could weaken over time.

[mokinbird87]

Originally Posted by KoolBRZ

I was reinstalling my aftermarket header, so I already had it up in the air, with the covers off and everything. It was easy. I spent more time and effort buttering everything up with grease, than I spent actually installing them. The rears were a little bit trickier, since there are plates top and bottom, to be installed in the right order. I took a test drive last night and the whole car seems more solid, maybe even a little bit quieter. It used to shake whenever it went over a bump, now it just goes thump. I can finally tune in my suspension now that I've got rid of the looseness.
I have Airlift and I can adjust spring strength and rebound dampening. Rebound changes with spring strength, so I just set the ride height/spring strength first, then adjust dampening to suit. I also have the softer, hollow, sway bars, so there is less to control the suspension going all flubbery over bumps. I would definitely recommend these to anyone who has a 2013 or 2014 before the use of the new stepped bolts. If you have the newer design bolts installed not only won't these inserts fit, but you wouldn't feel much of a difference if they did.
The newer bolts put all the strain on the threads, while the older bolts with inserts put the strain on the surrounding holes. I haven't heard about any of the new car's frames being torn apart on the track, so I guess the newer bolts work out OK.
If you've already bought these and have put off installing them, don't, it's easy. It's only 8 bolts. I bought new bolts online, and I made sure they were the old style bolts without the wider shoulders. I would recommend using new bolts, since these could weaken over time.

glad the install was easy for you cuz for me it was a PITA

[KoolBRZ]

It would be a lot easier to just replace the bolts with the newer design. It wouldn't be as tight as a rigid collar installation, but would still be worth doing.

[Vash]

I had the MY14 bolts in my car before the spoon collars. After installing the spoon collars, I didn't feel much of a difference at first, but after driving it longer, I do feel that the car seems to have less vibrations and feels more solid going over uneven pavement. It kind of feels like more sound deadening material has been added, and I really like it. Handling-wise, I don't think I push it anywhere hard enough to notice any difference.